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Kia Optima Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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#72 of 93
Re: pat82 [txoptima77] by backy
Jul 16, 2009 (7:55 pm)
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Replying to: txoptima77 (Jul 16, 2009 7:25 pm)

Plus there is a $1000 competitive bonus on the 2009 Optima, which is good on quite a few cars. The problem is, most of those cars probably don't qualify for the clunker cash due to their being fairly small.
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Optima or Forte? by mcmax
Jul 25, 2009 (6:57 pm)
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I've driven the '09 Optima LX auto & manual and the '10 Forte EX auto. I like the Forte's mpg, lower price and blue tooth. I think the Optima has a bit smoother ride and a bit better pick-up. So far, prices quoted are as follows:
 
Optima LX auto $19,740 - $2500 Kia cash, - $1000 comp bonus (own a Camry) - $3500 cash for clunkers = $12,740 + TTL + del (not discussed).
 
Forte EX auto $17,490 - $1000 comp. bonus (own a Mazda 3) - $4500 cfc = $11,990 + TTL + del??
 
Since I've never owned a Kia, I'm a bit hesitant... I welcome any advice!
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Re: Optima or Forte? [mcmax] by backy
Aug 01, 2009 (11:08 am)
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Replying to: mcmax (Jul 25, 2009 6:57 pm)

What it comes down to is, do you want to pay a little more for a larger car with a smoother ride and more power (also roomier interior), or go for the smaller car with better fuel economy?
 
Also, I am surprised there is no dealer discount on the Optima. I would expect the dealer would discount the Optima, perhaps more than the Forte since the Forte is a new model. If you like the Optima but are balking because of price, you could make them an offer for $12k (the price of the Forte) and see what they say.
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Re: Optima or Forte? [backy] by mcmax
Aug 01, 2009 (8:24 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Aug 01, 2009 11:08 am)

Hi backy. Got the car I today at a good price w/the cash for clunkers deal.
 
I'm feeling like I shouldn't have gone into the dealer so tired + I had a very long wait for financing, then had to sign a bunch of papers. Anyway, there were a couple of charges on the final paperwork that I signed off on. One was a $149.50 charge with NO explanation right under the tire tax charge of $1.25. The other was a "theft detterent" charge of $299 which I did not ask for (later found out on the net that it's just etching). So, now I'm feeling like I was ripped off for $450. Yes, feeling like an idiot, and yes, I did sign the paperwork. MAYBE the $149.50 charge is legit - and they "forgot" to put what it was for (but I really can't think of what this charge would be - the fact that there is no explanation is really bothersome). The $299 charge - big rip-off or is there any benefit? I wrote a nice to-the-point email - asking for clarification - to the finance manager awhile ago, but I'm sure they won't get it until Monday. Any suggestions? Sigh...
 
Just want to add that I didn't buy a KIA, so no diss to them. Just thought you guys might be of some help - if there is any recourse.
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Re: Optima or Forte? [mcmax] by backy
Aug 02, 2009 (9:35 am)
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Replying to: mcmax (Aug 01, 2009 8:24 pm)

If you signed the purchase agreement and there was no material misrepresentation on the dealer's part (i.e. telling you something that is not true that would influence your decision had they told you the truth), it's a done deal.
 
The time to ask them about both charges was before you signed the purchase agreement. But you probably realize that now. Consider it an unpleasant and expensive but valuable lesson in car buying--for you and those who read this discussion.
 
BTW, what did you buy?
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Re: Optima or Forte? [backy] by mcmax
Aug 02, 2009 (10:08 am)
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Replying to: backy (Aug 02, 2009 9:35 am)

Yep, kind of figured that might be the answer, but even for that mysterious, no-explanation amount of $149.50? Is there a good way to approach the dealer to at least try (I know, expensive lesson), but I feel like I need to give it a shot.
 
I bought the Scion Xd. They didn't have the radio installed (some quirky Scion thing), so I'm going back to the dealer tomorrow for that, so I will talk with them...
 
Maybe I'm beating a dead horse, but they do owe me an explanation for the $149.50 mystery charge at the least. I can't believe that I signed off on that either! Stupid, expensive lesson, but is it just too naive of me to believe they just wouldn't want to lose a future customer for $450? I had talked with them about possibly trading in another car on a Toyota, so do they really not want to p. me off?
 
Okay, naive, tired, whatever you call it - I've beat myself up enough, I need to at least tell the dealership how I feel. Know that I'm going to talk with them, just don't know who/how to approach it. What more harm could be done? (I'll wait until they install my radio (smile). Thanks.
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Re: Optima or Forte? [mcmax] by backy
Aug 02, 2009 (10:35 am)
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Replying to: mcmax (Aug 02, 2009 10:08 am)

Yes, they should explain every item on the purchase agreement. Sometimes dealers DO make mistakes on the paperwork--so it doesn't hurt to ask. Try to keep a calm but businesslike demeanor when you talk with them. You may have a long relationship with that dealer (or maybe not...).
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Re: Optima or Forte? [backy] by csandste
Aug 03, 2009 (3:12 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Aug 02, 2009 10:35 am)

I think dealer experiences can be reported on the board-- no?
 
I would think that identifying the dealer would be worth a lot more potential losses than the small amount they scammed from you.
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Re: Optima or Forte? [csandste] by backy
Aug 03, 2009 (3:28 pm)
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Replying to: csandste (Aug 03, 2009 3:12 pm)

Dealer names can be posted. But posting the name of the dealer doesn't "spend" as well as getting money back, if in fact it was "scammed." If it were me, I'd post the dealer's name AND check into the validity of the mysterious $149 charge. (The etching charge has been explained already.)
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Re: Optima or Forte? [backy] by mcmax
Aug 03, 2009 (7:46 pm)
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Replying to: backy (Aug 03, 2009 3:28 pm)

I went to the dealership today for installation of the radio. While that was being done, I asked to see the finance man. I said I had questions about two of the charges. He said the $149.50 charge was for document fees and that "every dealer has document fees". I said I didn't have any idea what it was since it wasn't listed on the paperwork. Not knowing if I was going to get anywhere with that, I then asked him about the $299 fee. He said it was for etching and the national database and that all the dealership's cars have it. I said it sounds like the same thing I can do with a $20 kit and 15 minutes of my time. He then said "I don't want to upset you." I said good. He said he would refund the money for the etching and I would receive a check in 10 days for $299. It's kinda funny - I was very calm, to the point,but firm. He said "I don't want to upset you" twice (which was weird because I wasn't "upset", quite the opposite). Me thinks he's had to go through this before...and knows it is a scam. I shook his hand and left. $149.50 seems high for "document fees" but I'm just happy to get $299 back.
 
Now if the check doesn't come... I will post the dealership name. As I'm typing this, two of his other dealerships' commercials have aired on the TV. Weird.

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