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#60 of 93 Re: 2009 Kia Optima EX w/no packages [mohatu] by csandste May 18, 2009 (9:32 pm)
Replying to: mohatu (May 18, 2009 10:46 am) Further proof that both Hyundai and Kia need to focus on dealer quality. I bought an Optima because in my case (at least) Kia has the better, less pushy, dealership. In your case, however, the dealer was obviously trying to pull a fast one. Replies to this message: mohatu (May 19, 2009 6:29 am)
#61 of 93 Re: 2009 Kia Optima EX w/no packages [csandste] by mohatu May 19, 2009 (6:29 am)
Replying to: csandste (May 18, 2009 9:32 pm) No, I wouldn't say it's only HyunKia's dealers' practice... The day before I bought the Optima I was trying to get a deal on the Insight EX no navi at the local Honda store. The talk was EXCLUSIVELY about an EX, I repeatedly made a point I don't want an LX. I picked the certain car from the lot that I wanted. We seemingly did finalize the figures for the deal and I started to fill in the loan app when my wife that was on the phone with me told me to confirm the figures for the one last time before we proceed. Just in case. I said, "So, this EX's price will be..." - and the salesman interrupts, "No-no-no... This is an LX...". All this after about 2.5 hours in the store. Imagine how furious I was. I just stood up and left.   So, one should be extremely careful while making a car deal anywhere. Weird things might happen almost any moment. Those guys count on the fact that you are either so exhausted by the end of negotiations and/or you want their car so badly that you'll agree to or miss these little tricks. Unfortunately, too many buyers do. As for me, yes, pity I couldn't get that Insight. But I'm quite flexible and for me there's many cars out there that I'd like to own and many other dealers to visit. I just move on and finally find what I want. Patience does it.   Of course, I didn't want to offend those dealers who are honest. Too bad they seem to be the minority.
#62 of 93 Bad deals??? by jskay May 30, 2009 (9:13 pm)
Actually if you look on the Maroni lable (The sticker on the window of ANY car on a lot) it will clearly state that the Optima has a destination fee. Clearly your fault for not looking closely enough at what you were buying. I am happy to see that you are blaming the salesmen and not the brand for the negotiation deal, I would simply state that at the next KIA dealer you go to and you'll get and explanation and better service. You will find Kia wants feedback from consumers they follow up with you with surveys through phone and e-mail after purchase as well as when you get your car serviced at the dealer. Anything bad about the car of the dealer will be addressed. If its the car then the 8,000 engineers they have will work on it for next years model. Replies to this message: csandste (May 31, 2009 11:22 am) kyfdx (Jun 01, 2009 4:01 am) mohatu (Jun 02, 2009 8:11 am)
#63 of 93 Re: Bad deals??? [jskay] by csandste May 31, 2009 (11:22 am)
Replying to: jskay (May 30, 2009 9:13 pm) I've negotiated many new car purchases. If the salesman tells me he's offering the car at $16,000, that MEANS $16,000-- destination charges included. If I went down to make the sale and he had the destination charge re-added in I would turn around and walk out. Replies to this message: kyfdx (Jun 01, 2009 4:01 am)
#64 of 93 Re: Bad deals??? [csandste] by kyfdx HOST Jun 01, 2009 (4:01 am)
Replying to: csandste (May 31, 2009 11:22 am) Exactly...
#65 of 93 Re: Bad deals??? [jskay] by mohatu Jun 02, 2009 (8:11 am)
Replying to: jskay (May 30, 2009 9:13 pm) Just as csandste said... Let me assure you jskay, I AM well aware of the dest charge existence. My point was that as far as I know, it is the common practice that the final sticker price posted on a car (be it a window sticker or the internet ad) must already include this charge. What the dealer tried to play here was the fact that the actual window sticker attached to the car displayed the official MSRP while their internet advertised price was several thousands less because of manufacturer rebates and dealer discounts. He wanted to persuade me that the inet price did not include dest charge because "the small print in the online ad states that the price advertised does not include TTL AND FEES", "fees" being among others, the dest fee. So, only after I threatened to leave, he agreed to drop this charge.   As for the brand, no, I don't have anything against the brand. Otherwise I wouldn't buy their car, would I? I think KIA is grossly underrated. They deserve much better. On the other hand, it is good for us consumers as it gives us nice cars for very low prices.
#66 of 93 Used 2007 by mikemartin Jun 10, 2009 (12:05 am)
For my nephew, how does a 2007 V6 LX Optima automatic with 18,400 miles for $7,500 sound?   Both carfax and another title search show it as a privately owned, one owner car.   Thanks. Replies to this message: csandste (Jun 10, 2009 8:31 pm) mikemartin (Jun 12, 2009 6:49 pm)
#67 of 93 Re: Used 2007 [mikemartin] by csandste Jun 10, 2009 (8:31 pm)
Replying to: mikemartin (Jun 10, 2009 12:05 am) There's a bunch of these at dealers at about the same price point in St. Louis, but they're probably rental returns.   I haven't checked Edmunds or NADA, but it sounds like a good deal to me. I've had absolutely nothing go wrong with my 07 Optima and Consumer Reports seems to bear this out. Unfortunately for me, and fortunately for your nephew, they depreciate even faster than Hyundais. Probably best bought used after a couple of years... Replies to this message: mikemartin (Jun 12, 2009 6:49 pm)
#68 of 93 Re: Used 2007 [csandste] by mikemartin Jun 12, 2009 (6:49 pm)
Replying to: csandste (Jun 10, 2009 8:31 pm) There's a bunch of these at dealers at about the same price point in St. Louis, but they're probably rental returns.    I haven't checked Edmunds or NADA, but it sounds like a good deal to me. I've had absolutely nothing go wrong with my 07 Optima and Consumer Reports seems to bear this out. Unfortunately for me, and fortunately for your nephew, they depreciate even faster than Hyundais. Probably best bought used after a couple of years...   I think he'd be better off with the 4 cylinder because the 6 cylinder requires a valve tappet adjustment which costs over a thousand dollars, and has to be done by the dealership, whereas the 4 cylinder does not.   What do you think of the Subaru Legacy 2.5i?   I really like the safety aspects of that car.
#69 of 93 Optima Pricing by rdillier Jul 13, 2009 (6:29 am)
I follow the Hyundai Sonata boards and learned of the Fitzmall dealership and its online pricing from there. Is there something similar for Kia and the Optima? Most of the dealerships SAY they have an online department, but they all want you to come in (says the spider to the fly) to talk about the car. I'd like to get some solid, online pricing to take in with me so I can still walk out of the dealership with my wallet. Thanks in advance. Bob

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