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#36 of 93 Reliability by ksmigel Sep 25, 2008 (11:25 am)
Is it safe for me to assume that the Optima is at least as reliable as the Sonata?   Also, can anyone confirm a $1,000+ dollar bill because the solid lifters must be adjusted near the 90k mile mark?   One last thing: Consumer Reports remarked that the Optima (I think 2007) had suspension noise. Anyone who owns one or has driven one care to comment?   Thank you.   Don Replies to this message: backy (Sep 25, 2008 12:11 pm) csandste (Sep 27, 2008 9:47 am)
#37 of 93 Re: Reliability [ksmigel] by backy Sep 25, 2008 (12:11 pm)
Replying to: ksmigel (Sep 25, 2008 11:25 am) As far as the I4 powertrain, they are the same (Optima for 2009 catches up with the 2009 Sonata in the engine department) so there should be no difference in reliability there. But the two cars are made in different factories, and have different V6s. CR rates the Sonata I4 "much better than average", the V6 average, and the Optima overall better than average (doesn't distinguish between I4 and V6 there).
#38 of 93 Re: Reliability [ksmigel] by csandste Sep 27, 2008 (9:47 am)
Replying to: ksmigel (Sep 25, 2008 11:25 am) The only suspension noise might be on hitting large bumps, other cars may have more sound insulation. Absolutely nothing whatsoever tinny or cheap feeling-- any thing I've heard is a thunk, not a clang or squeak. No problem whatsoever IMHO.
#39 of 93 by godwheel Oct 26, 2008 (6:31 pm)
2008 Kia Optima LX with rear spoiler I4 engine   $14,496 + TTL ($15,728.00 OTD)   Do you guys think that's a good deal? Replies to this message: csandste (Oct 26, 2008 8:21 pm) godwheel (Oct 27, 2008 6:37 pm) csandste (Oct 27, 2008 7:56 pm) and 1 more...
#40 of 93 Re: [godwheel] by csandste Oct 26, 2008 (8:21 pm)
Replying to: godwheel (Oct 26, 2008 6:31 pm) Two years ago I paid $16.1 for an 07 LX with add-on leather (looks as good as factory) and appearance group. Can't remember if the spoiler is part of the appearance group or just an add-on. Appearance group (if I remember correctly retailed at $1000, I think they let me have leather for $500. Obviously no one would pay full price for the appearance group and other than the classier instrumentation most of it is lost on me. Frankly replacing the 17 inch tires is an unneeded expense.   So, subtracting the appearance group and the leather you paid about what I did two years ago. Of course I bought a new 07 and you're getting a soon to be replaced 08. (Just noticed the 09 ad on the right of this page.) The 09 is uglier IMHO but should get better mileage and have more power.   I'm not sure what the rebates are on this, but I'd think you got a pretty good deal, especially if you got the appearance group thrown in.   I don't like listing TTL as part of the deal because it varies so much. For example in Missouri, taxes are paid separately depending on the town of residence within 30 days and the dealer sees none of this, other than some kind of title fee which I've never agreed to pay. Price paid to the dealer without these charges allows a much better comparison for a national market. Replies to this message: godwheel (Oct 27, 2008 6:37 pm) csandste (Oct 27, 2008 7:56 pm) godwheel (Oct 28, 2008 9:25 am)
#41 of 93 Re: [csandste] by godwheel Oct 27, 2008 (6:37 pm)
Replying to: csandste (Oct 26, 2008 8:21 pm) Thanks for replying. As far as I know there is no appearance group on the vehicle. The $14,496 includes all the rebates and such + tax, tag and title. I'm not really to pull the trigger yet, but at that price, I'm basically paying what I'm paying for my Elantra...   I'm almost certain I can get it down further, maybe another $500. The wild card in all of this is how much they are willing to give me for my Elantra... I guess I'll see when I go down to the dealer.   One other question, they have a 2007 EX V6 (fully loaded) that has been sitting on the lot brand new. They are offering it for like $15,687. Do you think I can ask for $14,496 and take that? It has like 20 miles and I much rather get the V6 with all the goodies for the same price.   Thanks for your input.   BTW, I agree 100% on the appearance of the 2009! Replies to this message: csandste (Oct 27, 2008 7:56 pm) godwheel (Oct 28, 2008 9:25 am)
#42 of 93 Re: [godwheel] by csandste Oct 27, 2008 (7:56 pm)
Replying to: godwheel (Oct 27, 2008 6:37 pm) If you like the V6 (I don't), you should be able to negotiate an extremely good deal on a 2 year old car.   My problems with the V6: 1. Timing belt to replace. 2. Not much more power than the four. 3. Poorer gas mileage.   Make 'em an offer of under $14K on it and see if they take it. Can't do any harm. I haven't checked the price of a used EX (say with 5K mileage) on Edmunds. See what that would bring and offer it or less.   Having the Elantra in the mix complicates things as to what the car is costing. I know selling it yourself is a hassle but it might save you a thousand or more. At the very least I'd negotiate the Kia separately.   Kias still depreciate much more than Hyundais, so I don't see much difference between the 07 and 08. If you buy this car do so with the idea that you're going to run it into the ground. Replies to this message: godwheel (Oct 28, 2008 9:25 am)
#43 of 93 2008 Optima EX V6 by timmboj Oct 28, 2008 (6:59 am)
My parents are being offered 19,900 for a 2008 EX V6 with Sunroof, leather, ESC package. MSRP 23,900. 3500 off in rebates and another 500 just to hit my mom's goal of being under 20K.   Are there any other incentives out there we don't know about? Any more wiggle room in KIA? They're not into haggling. But its a bit more car than they wanted. They just wanted a sunroof and the ESC. But colors etc. are hard to find these days. Replies to this message: godwheel (Oct 28, 2008 9:28 am) backy (Oct 28, 2008 10:15 pm) csandste (Oct 29, 2008 7:27 pm)
#44 of 93 Re: [csandste] by godwheel Oct 28, 2008 (9:25 am)
Replying to: csandste (Oct 27, 2008 7:56 pm) I searched on Edmunds for the use V6 EX loaded and couldn't find an equal car within 200 miles of my house! The closest I saw was a 2008 Optima LX with 5K miles going for $12,188. I'm guessing I can try going for under $14K and see what happens. I agree with you, I'm just going to keep this car for a while (reason I'm getting rid of the Elantra is that I have a baby on the way and need the extra room in the back). What appeals to me is that it has leather and all that nice stuff I won't be able to get with the I4 for a lower price.   I guess I'll find out when I drive there this weekend, I'm sure they will give me dirt for my Hyundai, so I'm afraid I'll probably just walk out and wait till my loan is done with the Elantra (2.5 years yuck).
#45 of 93 Re: 2008 Optima EX V6 [timmboj] by godwheel Oct 28, 2008 (9:28 am)
Replying to: timmboj (Oct 28, 2008 6:59 am) Timmboj,   Check on the edmunds site under NEW and price out the 2008 Optima EX V6 with all the goodies and get a good idea of what the invoice is. The subtract the rebates to get a good starting point. I would offer $1,000 under invoice + rebates to see the response and see where that leaves you (like was mentioned above, new redesigned model, the extras also allow more giggle room for negotiations etc..)   Report back we'd love to hear an update.

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