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Volkswagen Jetta, Oil, Diesel, Sedan
#16 of 182 Re: VW Jetta Burnin the oil? [jettagyalgo]
May 26, 2007 (7:58 pm)
The 2.0L engine requires 4.2 quarts (just over 4 bottles)...
Also, make sure you use the factory (VW or MANN) oil filter instead of the aftermarket oil filters. The factory (MANN) oil filter (which has a bypass valve and a n anti-drainback valve made of steel - rather than the cheaper rubber that the aftermarket filters use) is a critical part of maintaining the proper engine oil pressure. If the proper oil pressure isn't maintained, your engine will consume oil through the exhaust and the crankcase ventilation system - it's a gradual loss which you won't notice until the next time you check your oil.
I refuse to use aftermarket filters on any of my 3 VWs - and that strategy has paid dividends. My 1997 Jetta has over 216,000 miles and doesn't consume any oil.
#17 of 182 Re: VW Jetta Burnin the oil? [600kgolfgt]
May 26, 2007 (8:27 pm)
Not being smart..just asking are you sure 4? The last time I put 2 in and the specialist at pep boys said that it was enough....
Today I brought 3 at AS Strauss...The VW service guy told me to get 5w 30 and put it in. I put in two and then went in to the service area to check...on the cap it stated not to over the mark. I wanted to put in 3 but he said that would have been too much. At that point he showed me where the oil should be and said it was perfect.
He suggested that I check the oil every morning to make sure its not burn out.
I am trying to get an appointment on Wednesday with the VW guys. Since it is my first car...I don't want to mess around with it and I am trying to learn what everything is...now I am going to look up "air filter". I had an oil change in April and my next schedule oil change/check is in August or 31,000 miles. right now I have 28,000 and I don't drive much. The guy at AS Strauss stated if I did not go in...I would just have to add oil every so often. This is getting to be stupid...I don't know why the VW services guy did not get it the first 2 times around....
Sorry, if I ask ridiculous questions, just trying to learn as fast as I can.
Thanks for any help!
#18 of 182 Re: VW Jetta Burnin the oil? [jettagyalgo]
May 27, 2007 (6:00 am)
Two quarts was likely enough because there were probably 2 quarts still remaining. If you truely had no oil at all the engine would be destroyed very quickly. When you say there was no oil it was probably just so low that the level was below the bottom of the dipstick.
Sounds like good advice from the VW service guy. Check the oil with the dipstick every day, so you can see how fast it is being consumed. Once you have a good idea of this you can probably reduce the frequency of checking.
Some engines do burn oil. Most manufacturers will claim something like as much as a quart every 1000 miles is acceptable. Anyway, if it does burn oil then the thing to do, as you have been advised, is add it when it starts getting low so that the level is always kept in the acceptable range on the dipstick.
#19 of 182 Re: VW Jetta Burnin the oil? [jettagyalgo]
May 27, 2007 (6:44 am)
Not being smart..just asking are you sure 4?
Yep. I have the factory manuals for Golf/Jetta covering both the Mk3 (1993-1999) and Mk4 (1999-early 2005), and the specifications for the 2.0 engines (Mk3 & Mk4) say 4.2 qts.
As a matter of fact, having owned VWs for 25 years (including a 1975 Scirocco and 1987 Golf GT), that amount hasn't changed much over the years.
The 2.0L engine is basically an evolutionary improvement based on a design that dates back to 1973.
As stated in this thread, you probably had 2 quarts in the engine - which is why the engine was still running...
When topping of the oil in your engine, make sure the oil level doesn't go above the area where the dipstick bends...
#20 of 182 Re: VW Jetta Burnin the oil? [600kgolfgt]
May 27, 2007 (8:53 am)
600ft and Jeff:
Thank you very much for the needed advise. I was beginning to think I destroyed my engine . I have not driven today so I am going to check every morning or every other morning at least.
Again, many thanks!
#21 of 182 Heard of any recalls
May 28, 2007 (9:42 am)
I remembered something that the service guy told me at AS Strauss. He stated that the VW Jetta was/is manufactured in Europe as well as Mexico. He stated the cars that was mfd. in Mexico had trouble with the motor oil burning too much, etc.
Has anyone heard of this or know where I can find this information? Dear dear, hope I did not purchase a
#22 of 182 Re: Heard of any recalls [jettagyalgo]
May 28, 2007 (6:20 pm)
If you decode the VIN (Vehicle Identification Number) , it can tell you a lot about your vehicle.
However, the VIN will NOT tell you the source of every component in your car. VW is a WORLDWIDE company and components are manufactured all over the world.
The original window-sticker usually says where the components were sourced from. There is often a copy of that sticker hidden somwhere (like under trunk carpeting)
I beleive you mentioned that you have a 2003 model year. Most likely, that would have been ASSEMBLED in Mexico.... using parts built elsewhere. (Engine, Xmission... etc)
Also... are you suggesting that consuming some oil means your car is a lemon???? Where did you get that idea from? As long as you check your oil EVERY time you fill with gas, you will be OK. My daughters 2001 Gulf consumes oil and she carries a case of oil in the trunk to top off when it is low.
BEWARE: The more frequently you LET the oilget too low, the faster it will consume oil. It is FARRRR better to check it regularly and top off when needed. The 2 marks on the dipstick are exactly ONE QUART apart... so it is easy to tell how much it needs.
#23 of 182 OiI Change 85 Vanagon/Fumoto Drain Valve
May 28, 2007 (7:53 pm)
Our family (3 people) own a 85 Vanagon, 05 Elantra and a 97 Kia Sephia. The VW (132,000) is rarely used but runs ok. However, last year I took it in for an oil change and was disgusted the state of the vehicle on return so although I am not really technically minded I am hoping to change the oil myself. I am thinking of purchasing Fumoto Engine Oil Drain Valves for all 3 vehicles (just came across this product) and wondered if anyone has experience of fitting and using same; and also switching to synthetic oil (Castrol Syntec 10/30) for all 3 vehicles. Re VW, also, as vehicle did not come with a manual, any information about potential problems or difficulties (and tips) would be appreciated. Is it necessary to use only recommended oil filter and not generic (e.g. Fram) on VW (or for that matter on other vehicles as well)? Thanks for your help.
#24 of 182 Re: OiI Change 85 Vanagon/Fumoto Drain Valve [waldorfedu]
May 29, 2007 (4:30 am)
On another forum here (one of the synthetic oil discussions, probably) it has been suggested that synthetic is not a good choice for an infrequently used vehicle. Something about varnish from conventional providing some corrosion protection, IIRC.
#25 of 182 Re: OiI Change 85 Vanagon/Fumoto Drain Valve [waldorfedu]
May 29, 2007 (5:24 pm)
Have you considerd an "oil sucker" to change the oil? This is the unit I have (Got on sale for $40)
With the oil-sucker, I can change the oil on my VW TDI in about 20 minutes... this includes changing the filter and pouring the old oil into 1-gallon containers for recycling. NOT EVEN A DROP is left on my driveway.
Of-course, the TDI has a drop-in oil-filter element so there is no drippage when it is replaced. A screw-on filter might lose a teaspoon of oil when changed.
Even the VW shop manual tells the dealerships to use an oil-sucker to change the oil. This saves on the time/effort to remove those 14 little screws that hold on the lower cover.
The oil-sucker is also good for changing xmission oil, xfer-case oil, differential-lube, power-steering fluid, brake-fluid.... etc etc.