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Porsche Cayman Lease Questions

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What is this discussion about? Porsche Cayman, Porsche Cayman S, Car Leasing, Car Buying, Coupe


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Thanks! by carnieve
Apr 03, 2007 (7:43 am)
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Thanks for your help - I'm off to the Porsche dealer armed with good info! I appreciate you sharing your knowledge!
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Re: 2007 Cayman lease questions - help Carman! [lbh2315] by Car_man HOST
Apr 24, 2007 (1:30 am)
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Replying to: lbh2315 (Mar 21, 2007 5:54 am)

Hi lbh2315. Let's take a look at the deal that you were quoted. The first thing that I notice about it is that the money factor you were quoted is a little high. Porsche Credit's current buy rate for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier is only .00310. If your credit is in good shape, the dealer that you are working with is trying to mark your car's factor up to add additional hidden profit to your deal. Try to get them to use the .00310 factor.
 
The selling price that you were quoted looks outstanding. Even with the marked up money factor, this is a good deal. As I said earlier, try to get the dealer to lower the money factor, but other than that I don't see any reason not to go for it.
 
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Re: Caymen Coupe Lease [carnieve] by Car_man HOST
Apr 24, 2007 (1:40 am)
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Replying to: carnieve (Apr 02, 2007 12:30 pm)

Greetings Car Nieve. Since you admittedly do not know much about leasing, you definitely should check out the following informative articles that are available here at Edmunds.com prior to visiting any dealers: 10 Steps to Leasing a New Car and Calculate Your Own Lease Payment.
 
Porsche usually does not provide lease support on its vehicles and the advertised Cayman lease that you mentioned is no exception. If you choose to lease a 2007 Cayman through Porsche Credit right now, you will have to use its standard lease money factor of .00310. This is equivalent to an interest rate of around 7.44%, which isn't great.
 
Both leasing and financing or paying cash for this car have merits. Neither one jumps out at me as the better deal right now. Whichever one you choose, make sure to negotiate the selling price of the Cayman that you want. The selling prices of leased vehicles are negotiable, just as if you were paying cash or financing. Porsche dealers seem to be providing substantial discounts on the Cayman right now. If you decide to lease, negotiate the lowest possible selling price and then have the dealer that you are working with use the aforementioned money factor to calculated your monthly payment.
 
You also should not make such a large down payment when leasing. I always advise consumers to put as little money down as possible when leasing. Lessees who make large down payments risk losing them if their vehicle is totaled in an accident or stolen and never recovered.
 
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2006 Cayman S Leftover by elmfd3s
May 14, 2007 (1:18 am)
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Car_man,
 
I was wondering if you know the current buy rate from Porsche Finanical for a New 2006 Cayman S leftover. I could not find any residuals or money factors for a new 06.
 
Thanks.
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Re: 2006 Cayman S Leftover [elmfd3s] by vwguild1
May 15, 2007 (10:08 am)
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Replying to: elmfd3s (May 14, 2007 1:18 am)

No longer available from any lender...only 2007
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Re: 2007 Cayman lease questions - help Carman! [habitat1] by b6s4
May 15, 2007 (3:33 pm)
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Replying to: habitat1 (Mar 22, 2007 11:30 am)

"Second, even though you may not care about ultimate performance, I'd have to disagree about the TT's weight. It is a cow. Nearly 3,500 lbs for the "roadster" is nearly 700 lbs more than my former S2000, 550+ lbs more than a loaded Boxster S that I considered in 2005 and 200 lbs more than the loaded 911 Carrera S Cabriolet that I bought. I even consider my 911 slightly heavy, but my daughters fit in the back and it's still capable of a low 4 second 0-60 sprint, so it's hard to complain. The TT - as with all Audi's - is just too damn heavy, without acceptable justification, IMO."
 
You must be confusing the new TT with the old. The new TT has an aluminum space frame and is some 300 lbs. lighter than the previous car. Car and Driver weighed the TT at 2960 lbs., which is lighter than the Boxster, Cayman, and 911.
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Re: Cayman Lease Help [Car_man] by b6s4
May 15, 2007 (3:42 pm)
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Replying to: Car_man (Feb 15, 2007 4:20 am)

"What I can tell you is that $3,000 and $7,000 are way too much money to put down when leasing. I always advise consumers not to make large down payments on leased vehicles. Those who do risk losing them if their vehicle is totaled in an accident or stolen and never recovered."
 
This is not exactly true. The down payment goes to reducing the payoff amount on the lease, so you do not really lose the down payment. The payoff amount is the cost to purchase the car from the lease, and is the same amount for the insurance company to purchase the car from the leasing company, as in the case of an accident or if the car is stolen. The difference in the payoff amount and the street value of the car is refunded to you (or owed to the insurance company). I know this well because I have been through it.
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Re: 2006 Cayman S Leftover [vwguild1] by elmfd3s
May 15, 2007 (9:17 pm)
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Replying to: vwguild1 (May 15, 2007 10:08 am)

So, how does a dealer lease a brand new 2006 Cayman S on their lot?
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Re: 2006 Cayman S Leftover [elmfd3s] by kyfdx HOST
May 16, 2007 (3:35 am)
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Replying to: elmfd3s (May 15, 2007 9:17 pm)

Technically, you could still lease any car. You can even find an independent bank on your own.
 
But, if the Porsche dealer doesn't have a bank that wants to do it, then you can guess that the payment will be outrageous.
 
Leasecompare.com is a broker for independent bank leases. You can check out their website for quotes.
 
regards,
kyfdx
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Re: Cayman Lease Help [b6s4] by Car_man HOST
May 18, 2007 (2:47 am)
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Replying to: b6s4 (May 15, 2007 3:42 pm)

Thanks for sharing your experience, [b6s4. The problem with making a large down payment when leasing is that vehicles are often worth significantly less on the open market than what consumers owe to the bank that they are leasing through. If this happens, gap insurance covers the difference, but it does not refund any down payment that was made. Down payments have absolutely no impact upon vehicles' residual values or their lease-end purchase prices. While there is no guarantee that one will lose the down payment that they made on their lease if their vehicle is in an accident, it frequently does happen and in my opinion is not worth the risk.
 
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