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Replying to: elwood52 (Sep 04, 2007 12:49 pm) My sport exhaust is turned on by the "sport" button which also activates the sport programming in the sport chrono package (faster throttle response, faster braking response). The PASM suspension setting can be toggled separately between normal and sport, but the sport exhaust cannot be toggled separately from the sport chrono. The net effect of the sport exhaust and faster throttle response of the sport chrono is significant. The car feels and sounds like it took a steroid shot from Barry Bonds trainer. Although Porsche doesn't claim any increase in horsepower, the perception is that the car is quicker. My bottom line is that: (a) I would not get the sport exhaust without also getting the sport chrono. The sport chrono is a bigger bang for the buck in terms of throttle response and feel. And they way it integrates with the sport exhaust is a much better package overall. (b) I would not get an aftermarket sport exhaust, myself. I like the seamless factory integration of the Porsche system and I would want to have the ability to toggle the exhaust off. There are times when you don't want to wake your neighbors coming home. While it is true that some aftermarket systems claim increases in horsepower, that's usually with a series of other options that add significantly to the cost. A friend of mine dumped $15k into modifying a 2001 996 Turbo with a sport exhaust, larger turbos, engine reprogramming and a heavy duty clutch. But, in the end he had a car with 550+ hp at the wheels and a 11.0 second 1/4 mile ticket to show for it. I don't think that's what you are looking for in a base Cayman. (c) Lastly, while it is your money, I'd have to side with redsoxgirl that a sport exhaust on a base, tiptronic Cayman is a little peculiar. I took my 911S off the lot and got a great deal ($10k off), essentially making the sport exhaust a freebie. But if I was paying for it, I'd likely stretch for an "S" model before I added a sport exhaust to a base model. Especially in the Cayman where the "S" gets you an addtional 50 hp, compared to 30 in the 911. That's a huge difference. As is the 6-speed vs. tiptronic. My manual transmission is a sheer pleasure and exceptionally easy to modulate, even in DC area traffic. There is NO reason, IMO, to get a $3,400 tiptronic unless you are physically disabled.
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Replying to: habitat1 (Sep 05, 2007 9:32 am) You should get your hands on a few issues of excellence magazine and check out all of the aftermarket items available for these cars........you will be quite surprised.
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Replying to: ringleader6 (Sep 06, 2007 4:12 pm) First, a "casual driver on the open road" describes the original poster, he would be just as well off driving a slushbox Camry. It's bs to suggest that is the metric for buying a Porsche. Second, double check your logic, please. In the Boxster and the Cayman, the performance difference between the 6-speed manual and Tiptronic in performance is HUGE, relatively speaking. The manual transmissioned base model in both cars is damn near as quick as the tiptronic in the "S" models with 50 more horsepower. Same goes for the 911. So on the one hand, you are suggesting paying $3,400 for Tiptronic to castrate the equivalent of 30-50 horsepower out of the performance of the car and then spend even more money to reprogram the engine to try to get some of that back? And according to my dealer, you could be flirting with invalidating the warranty. IMO, it's a no brainer. Get a manual, save a bundle and have a real sports car that will be a lot more fun to drive. Can't expain your claim about the Atlanta market, but my dealer in Maryland will not order any Boxster, Cayman or 911 with a tiptronic without a non-refundable deposit. Maybe it's the Nascar vs. Formula One demographic. |
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Replying to: ringleader6 (Sep 06, 2007 4:12 pm) I have to ask, though, claiming the Tiptronic to be an "excellent option" and claiming the performance difference from a manual is "bs", have you ever driven either? That seems like an unbelievable statement if you have. My brother, a former race team member and still consultant to Porsche doesn't have a single peer in his Porsche group that would opt for the Tiptronic, even on the 911 Turbo, in spite of its claim to being quicker - thanks to a "launch control sequence" that idiots can use to impress other idiots at a stoplight. He still teaches performance driving courses for Porsche and Ferrari - using strictly manuals - and lives outside Atlanta. Perhaps you should look him up. In fairness, there is some positive anticipation of the DSG transmission Porsche has been working on for some time and should be introducing soon. But there is no love lost on the Tiptronic slushbox by anyone who is a serious Porsche enthusiast. |
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Ok, The MSRP is 53,575 not including 860 freight. New '08 Cayman. The dealer is offering me a 3,000 discount and doesn't seem to be willing to give more than that. Is that an acceptable proposal? Thanks for your opinion.
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Replying to: elwood52 (Sep 07, 2007 7:54 am)
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Let's try to help with pricing, and leave that debate to the general discussion.. While I would never buy a Cayman with Tiptronic, other people would still like to know how much to pay. I'm on your side, but wading through this debate, every time, is going to obscure the mission of this particular discussion. Thanks! kyfdx Host-Prices Paid Forums |
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Replying to: habitat1 (Sep 07, 2007 11:41 am) No real selection of '07's at this particular dealer. But I guess I had in mind more like 7% off on an '08. Thanks
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Replying to: elwood52 (Sep 07, 2007 12:08 pm) On the other hand, you might want to check inventories at other dealers in your area/region via Porsche's website. I ended up getting my good deal at a Baltimore area dealer 50 miles away after the 4 closer dealers scoffed at much of any discounting. And I haven't had any problems getting good service at the nearby dealer that didn't get the sale. For me, getting a 2005 for effectively $7k less than a 2006 (factoring in a 2% price increase) was worth it. Especially since it gave me the opportunity to drive the car (Cabriolet) in the fall rather than wait until December for delivery. |
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