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Replying to: kmans (Aug 27, 2007 3:56 am) |
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I've pretty much decided to buy a 2008 Cayman with tiptronic as an option. Question; is the sports exhaust option worthwile - in terms of a more robust sound? Thanks. |
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Replying to: elwood52 (Sep 04, 2007 12:49 pm) Good luck...and enjoy...
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Replying to: donc6 (Sep 04, 2007 12:57 pm)
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Replying to: elwood52 (Sep 04, 2007 12:49 pm) The base Cayman isn't exactly a speed demon to begin with. Handicapping it with a $3,500 tiptronic takes it down a couple of more notches. From my experience driving various 911's, the Tiptronic doesn't just adversely affect the straight line acceleration, but also affects how the car handles curves and transitions, compared to the positive engagement of the Porsche's excellent 6-speed manual. But....to then add a $2,400 sport exhaust system on a base tiptronic Cayman seems like a bad joke. And a potentially embarassing one. You'd end up with a car that sounds like it can keep up with a $200k Ferrari and yet in reality would have a tough time keeping ahead of a $20k Mazda Miata. All image, but limited substance. IMO, rather than spend a total of $6,000 on Tiptronic and sport exhaust on a base Cayman, you should consider getting a 6-speed Cayman S and have a real world class sports car. Or, just get a manual transmission base Cayman and take the Porsche (or other) performance driving school. I know my position sounds harsh, but I think you should hear it straight, rather than sugar coated. If you still want to spend $60k on a base Cayman with a lame slushbox and a mean exhaust, it's your money. |
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Replying to: sameol6 (Sep 04, 2007 11:10 pm) As far as the person wanting the sports exhaust there are a lot better options available to you, check the articles section at caymanclub.net and you'll find reviews and dyno tests of several aftermarket exhaust systems for the Cayman, ones that produce real horsepower. Check out the Capristo system on my Cayman S, just visit YouTube and search for Capristo and Cayman and you'll find it.
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Replying to: kmans (Sep 05, 2007 8:03 am) |
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Replying to: elwood52 (Sep 04, 2007 12:49 pm) My sport exhaust is turned on by the "sport" button which also activates the sport programming in the sport chrono package (faster throttle response, faster braking response). The PASM suspension setting can be toggled separately between normal and sport, but the sport exhaust cannot be toggled separately from the sport chrono. The net effect of the sport exhaust and faster throttle response of the sport chrono is significant. The car feels and sounds like it took a steroid shot from Barry Bonds trainer. Although Porsche doesn't claim any increase in horsepower, the perception is that the car is quicker. My bottom line is that: (a) I would not get the sport exhaust without also getting the sport chrono. The sport chrono is a bigger bang for the buck in terms of throttle response and feel. And they way it integrates with the sport exhaust is a much better package overall. (b) I would not get an aftermarket sport exhaust, myself. I like the seamless factory integration of the Porsche system and I would want to have the ability to toggle the exhaust off. There are times when you don't want to wake your neighbors coming home. While it is true that some aftermarket systems claim increases in horsepower, that's usually with a series of other options that add significantly to the cost. A friend of mine dumped $15k into modifying a 2001 996 Turbo with a sport exhaust, larger turbos, engine reprogramming and a heavy duty clutch. But, in the end he had a car with 550+ hp at the wheels and a 11.0 second 1/4 mile ticket to show for it. I don't think that's what you are looking for in a base Cayman. (c) Lastly, while it is your money, I'd have to side with redsoxgirl that a sport exhaust on a base, tiptronic Cayman is a little peculiar. I took my 911S off the lot and got a great deal ($10k off), essentially making the sport exhaust a freebie. But if I was paying for it, I'd likely stretch for an "S" model before I added a sport exhaust to a base model. Especially in the Cayman where the "S" gets you an addtional 50 hp, compared to 30 in the 911. That's a huge difference. As is the 6-speed vs. tiptronic. My manual transmission is a sheer pleasure and exceptionally easy to modulate, even in DC area traffic. There is NO reason, IMO, to get a $3,400 tiptronic unless you are physically disabled.
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Replying to: habitat1 (Sep 05, 2007 9:32 am) You should get your hands on a few issues of excellence magazine and check out all of the aftermarket items available for these cars........you will be quite surprised.
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Replying to: ringleader6 (Sep 06, 2007 4:12 pm) First, a "casual driver on the open road" describes the original poster, he would be just as well off driving a slushbox Camry. It's bs to suggest that is the metric for buying a Porsche. Second, double check your logic, please. In the Boxster and the Cayman, the performance difference between the 6-speed manual and Tiptronic in performance is HUGE, relatively speaking. The manual transmissioned base model in both cars is damn near as quick as the tiptronic in the "S" models with 50 more horsepower. Same goes for the 911. So on the one hand, you are suggesting paying $3,400 for Tiptronic to castrate the equivalent of 30-50 horsepower out of the performance of the car and then spend even more money to reprogram the engine to try to get some of that back? And according to my dealer, you could be flirting with invalidating the warranty. IMO, it's a no brainer. Get a manual, save a bundle and have a real sports car that will be a lot more fun to drive. Can't expain your claim about the Atlanta market, but my dealer in Maryland will not order any Boxster, Cayman or 911 with a tiptronic without a non-refundable deposit. Maybe it's the Nascar vs. Formula One demographic. |
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