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Toyota Camry, Transmission, Sedan
#687 of 882 Re: You know what? [acco20]
Oct 10, 2007 (8:44 pm)
Actually I've been selling Toyota Camry sedans since model year 1997. And I've been driving Toyota products since 1981. First was an 81 Celica, then came an 85 Toyota VAN LE, then the first Camry; a 1992, then a pre-owned 93 which I drive daily. Then a 1997 which my wife drives daily since the 92 was totaled and she walked away with airbag burns to her face and a very sore shoulder from the cinch of the belt. I also owned a 1988 MR2, my youngest son is going on his second Corolla (first saved his life), my oldest drives a Scion tC (Toyota Product) his wife drives a 2003 Corolla S 5spd, and the odd one of the family my middle one drives a Honda Prelude, and two Acura Integras before that. I believe I explained in one of my earlier posts how cruise control works on Camry so I won't go through it again here. Another poster with more mechanical saavy than me agreed with my assessment. Now if the up shifting and down shifting of the transmission to maintain a pre-set speed is annoying to some then that's another issue and not a defect of the vehicle which is doing what it was told to do. When I go on test drives with customers we are looking for power, smoothness, quietness, how does the car ride, does it meet the customers needs, etc,. I'm not a mechanic and it's not my job to go look for "problems" on new cars. If these problems arise there is a factory warranty that will get them fixed. Group hug!
#688 of 882 Re: Engine or transmission problem [camryowner1]
Oct 10, 2007 (8:57 pm)
See the above message. If that doesn't convince you then I will tell you that I was an electro-mechanical technician in the USN for 20 years so I know my share of electronics and mechanics, servo motors, transmissions, etc, I also taught several courses on several guided missile weapon systems that utilize these elctro-mechanical devices, motors, servos, circuit cards, and micro-chips. lots of 1's and 0's So I know how things work. But to scream at me that I am wrong is wrong. I posted my experience with this particular vehicle this past weekend. I have driven others since I have access to any car on the lot and at times will drive to Richmond VA, or Baltimore Md, or Atlantic city, for Toyota functions so I take a company car and I have not encoountered these problems. Now if you still don't care to believe me so be it. But I will give you one more chance to take those word back. Starting tomorrow, I will park my little butt at the service lane and every customer that comes in for service on a Toyota Camry 2007 will be canvassed by me to see what problems they are experiencing with hesitation and flare up. Then I will go to the Master mechanics which we have a couple and ask them how many of these problems they have encountered. I can guarantee you they will be minimal. Have a good evening.
#689 of 882 Re: Engine or transmission problem [mackabee]
Oct 10, 2007 (10:00 pm)
Great! It will be good to know from the "inside" how many Camrys actually have problems. I agree with you Mack, they probably will be minimal. If they do have problems, several people have said the new TSB has corrected the hesitation issue, and the TSB only takes an hour.
#690 of 882 Re: Engine or transmission problem [mackabee]
Oct 11, 2007 (7:45 am)
mackabee--- I said you were WRONG when you stated that I only had the cruise control downshifting problems after reading about them in this forum. If you review your previous post you will see what I mean. I came here looking for help with what I consider a very annoying problem, and one which Toyota has issued several TSBs to correct. Unfortunately for me, the Aug 2, 2007 TSB(EG036-07) did not fix the problem on my car. As I understand from posts, herein, this TSB did fix some of the O7 Camrys.
By the way, I also am a 20 year Navy Electronics Technican who knows a little about servo motors, electronics, mechanics, etc.. So if you really want to help, my VIN: 4T1BE46K07U102536. According to some posts in this forum, TSB TC010-06(Aug06) which involved replacing a solenoid fixes the downshifting problem. But since my car was assembled in 12/06, my car supposedly had this solenoid already replaced when it was assembled. The latest TSB EG036-07(ECM calibration) recalibrates ECM(PCM) engine and transmission, and fixed the hesitation problem, but not the cruise control downshifting problem. Could you check with your Master Mechanics to see if replacing the solenoid per TSB TC010-06 could be implemented on my car? I would appreciate any and all help you might render. My local dealer has not been much help.
#691 of 882 Re: Engine or transmission problem [camryowner1]
Oct 11, 2007 (10:11 am)
Here's the TSB, if anyone needs it:
#692 of 882 Re: Engine or transmission problem [camryowner1]
Oct 11, 2007 (10:40 pm)
There must be more than one Toyota dealer in your area. Looks like your car falls in the TSB range. I did my "canvassing" today in between making a living by selling cars There weren't many Camry 07's in for service that I saw with the exception of an Le that I sold last summer. I spoke with the owner and he has no problems with it. Was getting an oil change and tire rotation. I spoke with a couple of our Master techs and the main man told me he personally had worked on two yes 2 V6 Camrys with the six speed transmission and another two 4 cylinder with the "hesitation problem". He explained to me the DBW or drive by wire system now in the new gen Camry and I understand the hesitation people are referring to. The car is actually delaying the upshift by less than a second and then kicks in so a surge of power is felt by the driver. This is not necessarily a problem per se but the way DBW is integrated with the drive train. The "hard shift" that the TSB speaks of is a downshift from 5th to 4th gear and it's known as "shift shock" which in previous gen Camrys was controlled by a slight retardation of the engine timing.
#694 of 882 2007 Camry Transmission Problems and Arbitration
Oct 12, 2007 (11:11 am)
We have a 2007 Camry 4 cyl that is have the usual hesitation, jerkiness, etc., shifting problems. Same as has been mention several times before on this forum. We also own a 2006 4cyl Camry that runs great so we have a comparison. Toyota has said there is nothing else they can do so we are scheduled for an arbitration hearing on 29/Oct. Does anyone have any advice?
#695 of 882 Re: 2007 Camry Transmission Problems and Arbitration [rstine61]
Oct 12, 2007 (1:22 pm)
rstine61, How many times has Toyota tried to fix your hesitation issue? How long has it been out of commission? If you don't have several attempts (at least 3) then I don't think you will win at arbitration. Unfortunately, if Toyota is denying the problem, it really puts you at a huge disadvantage.
The arbitrator's usually use your states lemon law as a guide as to if they will buy back your car or not.
I have read several places that arbitration is a waste of time. The arbitrators are paid by Toyota. Toyota tells you that you need to go to arbitration before you can file a Lemon Law suit but, at least in California, I have heard that isn't true.
As far as advice, you may want to try and video the hesitation on your 2007 and also video the same driving conditions in the 2006 so the arbitrators can see the difference.
I wish you all the best!
#696 of 882 Re: Update on my shift flare [teamtbo]
Oct 12, 2007 (6:12 pm)
Brought my car back to the dealer again yesterday for the noise I was telling you about and the shift flare. Sure enough, the noise was TSB EG039-06 - took the tech about 1 minute to re-adjust the steering column hold shield.
I dropped off the car so I could repro the shift flare for them this morning. I was able to reproduce it and got it documented. Whatever they do will be attempt #4. They said they want me to bring the car back in on Tuesday when the Field Technical Specialist will be there to go for a test drive. I am not sure how going on another test drive with the FTS will help them considering Toyota has been trying to fix this problem for 1 to 1.5 years now.