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Toyota Camry, Transmission, Sedan
#649 of 882 Re: Engine or transmission problem [wwest]
Oct 03, 2007 (9:35 am)
wwest----- Since my 2003 Camry LE 4cyl/4spd automatic gets better FE (fuel efficiency) than my 2007 Camry LE 4cyl/5spd automatic, and without any annnoying upshift/downshift, I wish Toyota would have had a better design for 2007 transmission. Do you think Toyota will design a CVT to replace the "BADLY DESIGNED TRANSMISSION IN THE 2007 CAMRY"? A great PR effort on their part would be to replace these annoying transmissions in the 2007 Camry with a CVT. Do you agree?
#650 of 882 Re: Engine or transmission problem [camryowner1]
Oct 04, 2007 (6:55 am)
Yes, great, GREAT PR, but at "too" great a cost.
But maybe 2010....??
And while your 2003 was most likely "just" a 4 speed your 2007 is more likely a 6, or maybe even a 7 speed.
LU: Torque converter lock-up clutch engaged.
#651 of 882 Re: Engine or transmission problem [wwest]
Oct 04, 2007 (8:40 am)
wwest---Wish they had stayed with the 4spd automatic transmission for the 2007 Camry 4cyl like the one in my 2003 Camry 4cyl.. No FE was gained by going to the very annoying 5spd automatic transmission, at least not in my 07 Camry LE 4cyl/5spd automatic. As you say replacing these annoying transmissions is probablly too expensive, but it sure would help them in the loyal public support and advertising area. Just think how much bad publicity they are getting out of the dissappointing design of the 5spd transmission. I wonder if Toyota has thought of how much "BAD" word-of-mouth advertising has come from this BADLY DESIGNED TRANSMISSION WITHOUT CVT. According to a recent TV news announcement, Toyota sales are down some 40% this year. Could it be a coincidence?
#652 of 882 Re: Engine or transmission problem [camryowner1]
Oct 04, 2007 (9:25 am)
Do you own a vehicle with a CVT? My friend owns the new Altima with one and says he hates the transmission. He doesn't like how it "feels," or the lack of feeling I guess.
My 2007 LE I4 Camry transmission is fine. Its not badly designed.....it just that some people are having problems. I'd like to know the actual percentage of owners with those problems...too bad there is no way to find out.
#653 of 882 Re: Engine or transmission problem [camryowner1]
Oct 04, 2007 (9:30 am)
"According to a recent TV news announcement, Toyota sales are down some 40% this year. Could it be a coincidence? "
Completely wrong. See post 1228 in "Toyota in 2007" Forum. They are UP 3.8%.
About the FE - hard to say whether the transmission is or is not gaining FE, because the weights of the car could be different, coefficient of drag could be different, driving conditions, etc. etc.
Most new automatics are going to shift more (I see other car manufacturers have this complaint as well). That's one of the reasons I have manuals. Honda just came out with the brand new Accord with a regular automatic, not a CVT.
The latest TSB seems to have resolved the hesitation issue.
Sorry you are disappointed!
#654 of 882 Re: Engine or transmission problem [mcdawgg]
Oct 05, 2007 (9:34 am)
I wonder how much pre-market testing was done on the very annoying 5spd transmission that was put in the 07 Camry. Yes, latest TSB fixed the hesitation problem, but this problem, along with the annoying downshift/upshift (with cruise control engaged), was present when the car was manufactured. To say I am disappointed is an understatement. I am truly amazed that Toyota could manufacture and sell a car with these annoying features. I really do not care what other manufacturers did, my loyalty and trust was in Toyota who built my 1992,2000,and 2003 Camrys, which were such outstanding cars that they remain in my family to this day. Maybe by 2010 they will develop a better designed transmission to put in the Camry, or go back to the best 4spd automatic on the market.
#655 of 882 Re: Engine or transmission problem [stlpike07]
Oct 05, 2007 (9:49 am)
stlpike07----Does your car display the very noticeable and annoying (at least to some of us with 07 Camrys) downshift/upshift when encountering any type of hill or upgrade? During my arbitration hearing, the Toyota rep stated that all 07 Camrys were designed to display this performance. Since all 07 Camrys were "designed" to perform in this manner, you can't really say that "some people are having problems". Every 07 Camry owner must have the same "problem with a badly designed" 5spd automatic transmission, ie. if this Toyota rep's statement was true. If your car does not perform as described here, you are the owner of a 07 Camry with a differently designed 5spd automatic, and I would like to know if your car was assembled in Japan or USA. (VIN starts with J for Japanese assembled models).
#656 of 882 Re: Engine or transmission problem [camryowner1]
Oct 05, 2007 (10:24 am)
I had the cruise control problem initially from day one with my early production LE I4, but it was resolved with the first performance TSB. Both the cruise control and hesitiation problems have been resolved completely for what seems like 9 months now, but I am scheduled Monday for oil change and installation of the updated TSB (figure I might as well have the latest software).
The cruise control problem with my vehicle was absolutely horrible initially, so it was very evident when it was resolved with the first TSB. Why it has not resolved your cruise control issue I would have no clue, doesn't make sense to me unless it is also related to other factors or parameters (type/quality of fuel, altitude, rolling friction of tires, some other sensor, who knows......).
#657 of 882 Re: Engine or transmission problem [kiawah]
Oct 05, 2007 (6:02 pm)
right, could be revision of cruise control module, tcm, ecu, who knows?
#658 of 882 Re: Engine or transmission problem [user777]
Oct 06, 2007 (6:10 am)
Both the 2007 Mazda minivan and the 2007 Chrysler Sebring that I drove on vacation in HI this year exhibited an extraordinary level of "shiftiness", not as bad in cruise control but still annoying, VERY.
Until I realized the Sebring did the same in CC I thought maybe I had a bad case of "nervous foot".