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#484 of 851 Re: Have been following this review & would like to comment [bohica223] by wwest Aug 26, 2007 (3:43 am)
Replying to: bohica223 (Aug 25, 2007 8:52 pm) " I've never seem this many complaints about an issue with any of the other cars you mentioned.."   If you restrict the issue to "flare" then I would agree. I was addressing the issue from the context of the 1-2 second downshift delay created by DBW to prevent premature failure of the transaxle.
#485 of 851 Following the issue; Following the trend; Following the market leader by user777 Aug 26, 2007 (4:09 am)
Replying to: bohica223 (Aug 25, 2007 8:52 pm) in some sense, by virtue of the very fact toyota is releasing TSBs is admission there are issues. some owners are getting new transmissions, some new solenoid assemblies, some new firmware or both hardware and software.   there's shift flares, excessive shifting, vague shifting, hesitation, uncontrolled acceleration. have i forgotten some behaviors here?   some have a greatly improved vehicle when the TSBs are applied, and some say the problems return later.   so, there are probably a few factors at root cause here and not everyone is experiencing the exact same issue or issues. in my mind, because of the computer integration between engine and transmission control, we are left to speculate as to what is truly the cause.   in the bigger picture, this speaks volumes to what is likely to happen as our vehicles (the make is irrelevant) become more and more complex, computerized, and sub-systems integrated in the name of fuel economy, safety, and parts longevity (now that's a good one).   expect technicians and vehicle owners to be stupified by bizzare behaviors, and explainations provided by the manufacturer or dealers or technicians to be pithy, non-reassuring, inaccurate, or just plain wrong.   expect customer-centric dealerships and their employees to be placed in awkward positions of having to state "cannot duplicate" or "operating as designed" or "they all do that" thus adhering to the party line as they await a highly scripted "fix" which can only come from the manufacturer.   expect the fixes to involve complete sub-system change outs as traditional maintenance techniques will no longer apply; black box modules or sub-assemblies too technically rich for the dealerships to service themselves will have to be swapped out until the real problem is identified.   expect long waits as part commonality among models result in shortages.   anticipate that the criticality of software function requires a good deal of quality review and testing to assure no negative fuel economy, safety, parts longevity, or user expectation impact as new firmware is readied for deployment to the engine control and transmission control computers in our vehicles.   expect we'll be forced more and more to be driven by our vehicles, rather than the other way around - being forced to adapt and change our driving style to match these "smart" "adaptive" technologies.   expect our learned behaviors, some deeply adopted by our brains over the course of decades (of living and experience in other domains, or in the driving domain itself) to collide with these new behaviors.   some of these behaviors will be artifacts of the systems being designed and tested by engineers without adherence and sensitivity to fundamental human factors / usability principles.   we need an independant organization like the NHTSA agressively investigating claims when a trend surfaces. and we probably need more transparency on the part of manufacturers when the situation is calling for TSBs and "secret service campaigns" vs. recalls.   we also need to know if and when an organization like the NHTSA is actively investigating complaints on a make and model.   it's admittedly unfair that toyota seems to be under a microscope on the issue. they design and build products consumers what and find valuable; they are the ones with the expectation of quality; they have been proactive adopting these new technologies and bringing it to their product lines at price points we expect and accept; they are the segment leader in many respects.   so their responsibility and ownership on issues like this must be elevated. they must be an exemplar. that's moving forward.
#486 of 851 Re: Have been following this review & would like to comment [wwest] by bohica223 Aug 26, 2007 (8:45 am)
Replying to: wwest (Aug 26, 2007 3:38 am) Ahh if only that were the extent of the problem. But the flare in my tansmission occurs not only when cold but minutes and even hours after starting the vehicle. I can be driving it for 2 hours straight and it will still do it. Hot or cold the problem exists. I can warm my vehicle for 20, 30, even 60 minutes and the flare is still there. Even more infuriating is the fact that besides the flare, the problems of the malfunctioning heated seats, the console lights going on and off, getting brighter and dimmer, the ASL on the radio just plain NOT working, the bluetooth connection that works when it feels like it and the Drivers info center that is so very inaccurate (From a dead stop to 70 miles an hour..drive 70 miles an hour for 30 miles and info center says my avg speed is 38...there is something wrong) If its 92 degrees out my info center temp will say its 105 degrees. Granted some of these problems are minor and just inconveniences but put all together they pretty much equal one turd of a car. I dont know about anyone else but I dont intend to spend that kind of money for a brand new car and have to deal with these kinds of problems. I've bought used cars that have performed better. Replies to this message: djm2 (Aug 26, 2007 2:39 pm) bohica223 (Aug 26, 2007 6:16 pm) pat (Aug 27, 2007 5:40 am)
#487 of 851 Re: Have been following this review & would like to comment [bohica223] by djm2 Aug 26, 2007 (2:39 pm)
Replying to: bohica223 (Aug 26, 2007 8:45 am) Hi Bohica223:     I understand how you feel about your vehicle, and you have the "right" to feel that way about a poorly designed vehicle. But here is the important questions in relation to this entire issue; ------ DOES ANYONE ON THIS SITE THINK THAT "TOYOTA" REALLY CARES ABOUT WHAT WE THINK ABOUT THEIR PRODUCTS? If "Toyota" does care, what have they done, to correct the problems with their vehicles. Why does the company continue to deny that there is a problme with a number of their vehicles?      There is a "bottom line to every situation," and there is a "bottom line to this situation."! ---- We, as consumers, need to voice our opinion with our "purchasing power". Our dollars will speak much louder than any arbitration hearing. The "action" is simple! DO NOT PURCHASE ANY TOYOTA VEHICLES in the future. If the company is not going to be responsive to our needs as consumers, then we should take our business to another vendor! This is my first Toyota product. I DO NOT have any problmes,(at this point in time), with my V6 Camry XLE, but how would I be treated if my vehicle suddenly develops a problem?      At the present time, my vehicle is coming up to its 15,000 mile service. So far, it has been trouble free. In January, this vehicle will be one year old, and I will have somewhere between 22,000 and 25,000 miles on the clock. I am considering getting out from under this potential "time bomb" at that point in time, and moving into an American brand. If the Honda Accord for 2008 has comfortable seats, I might go back to a Honda. No more Toyota products for me, and I have a "so called good one"! They have sold me their last vehicle!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!      Best regards to all! ----- Dwayne. ----- Replies to this message: bohica223 (Aug 26, 2007 6:16 pm) pat (Aug 27, 2007 5:40 am)
#488 of 851 Re: Have been following this review & would like to comment [djm2] by bohica223 Aug 26, 2007 (6:16 pm)
Replying to: djm2 (Aug 26, 2007 2:39 pm) How right you are Dwayne. It is quite obvious that they dont care. And rest assured this will be my first and LAST Toyota. But if getting the word out in any way I can about the problems with my experience with Toyota helps not only me but anyone else considering purchasing a Toyota then its well worth it. Perhaps all of us in here getting together and not being just one little customer..make our voice heard..if not by uncaring Toyota, then by other consumers..maybe enough of the word will get out and lets see who is number one in auto sales next year..who gets automobile of the year next year. Even if my efforts and anyone else who cares to join me prove fruitless at least we did SOMETHING. 10 people can complain about the rain..it only takes one to open an umbrella
#489 of 851 Re: Have been following this review & would like to comment [djm2] by pat HOST Aug 27, 2007 (5:40 am)
Replying to: djm2 (Aug 26, 2007 2:39 pm) Why don't you check out the Are Toyota's recent quality problems just a glitch? discussion over in Auto News? Let's let this discussion focus on its topic, 07 Camry Transmission Questions. Thanks.
#490 of 851 Re: Fix Still Good [joel16] by jsrehbock Aug 30, 2007 (10:18 am)
Replying to: joel16 (Aug 13, 2007 2:43 pm) I have been following the comments on the hesitation problem. When we took our 2007 camry in and complained about the hesitation they said that it was normal and there was nothing we could do but get used to it. I started researching and found this site. Called Toyota headquarters the had the rep from the dealer call me back. The rep told me she was not a tech and could not answer my question. Not sure why she is the rep is she can not answer questions Finally got to the service manager and they are doing TSB EG036-7 right now. Had another problem with the dealer and would like to know some of your opinions. When checking our bill we saw that they used 5W30 oil in both of our oil changes we had done. The manual says to ONLY use 0w20 or 5W20 in the 4 cylinder cars. The service manager said that is only a suggestion and you don't need that oil only in the winter. Does any one know if the 5W30 oil will hurt the engine some time down the road? The manual says you should use 5W30 oil in 6 cylinder cars. My husband thinks that the dealership buy oil in bulk and wants to use this oil and not have to deal with different weight oils. Replies to this message: mcdawgg (Aug 30, 2007 11:47 am) silverbullet10 (Aug 30, 2007 4:41 pm) bmark (Aug 30, 2007 8:35 pm) wwest (Aug 31, 2007 7:04 am)
#491 of 851 Re: Fix Still Good [jsrehbock] by mcdawgg Aug 30, 2007 (11:47 am)
Replying to: jsrehbock (Aug 30, 2007 10:18 am) Terrible dealer. If the manual says use 0W20 or 5W20, then anything else is wrong (for the I4 engine). In fact, this wouldn't be surprised if Toyota denied your warranty if something should happen. Of course, then you would have to fight the dealer.
#492 of 851 Re: Fix Still Good [jsrehbock] by silverbullet10 Aug 30, 2007 (4:41 pm)
Replying to: jsrehbock (Aug 30, 2007 10:18 am) I read somewhere on the internet that 0W20 and 5W20 are recommended by manufacturer for better fuel efficiency especially to back up manufacture's EPA claim as well as overall brand CAFE requirement, but in terms of engine protection, 5W30 is actually better. I actually specify 5W30 for my oil change in my I-4 LE at the dealer and don't really see worse fuel efficiency.   I'm also one of the owners who experience throttle lags after making a right turn and it scares me everyday especially during cold morning start. Already schedule with the dealer this weekend for TSB fix and hopefully see some improvement. Did the previous TSB (056-07) and only saw improvement within the first month of TSB applied..
#493 of 851 Re: Fix Still Good [jsrehbock] by bmark Aug 30, 2007 (8:35 pm)
Replying to: jsrehbock (Aug 30, 2007 10:18 am) I am sorry to hear about all of the problems you all are having with your cars. And I mean that. But all you people that bash American cars, I have had 2 cars one a Pontiac and One A GMC that I have driven over 100,000 miles and never once have I had problems with the transmission. On the GMC I actually put it in reverse while in Drive going 3 mile an hour. SUV still drives great. and transmission runs great. Replies to this message: wwest (Aug 31, 2007 7:04 am)

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