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2007 Toyota Camry Transmission Questions

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Re: I've got an appointment... [wwest] by joel16
Aug 22, 2007 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: wwest (Aug 22, 2007 10:24 am)

I've read some material that said the similar/same firmware that is in automatics with manual shift mode (either at the stick, or shift paddles on steering wheel)is somehow incorporated in (what some call) a "straight drive" (aka stick shift). Good thing most of us didn't know the danger we were in 20-30 years ago with stick shift, or automatic, front drivers. I had a 1978 stickshift Honda Accord when they first came out and got into a fender bender on ice when I downshifted going around a corner. Now THAT car was fun to drive--a shapely tin can on wheels, weighed almost nothing, smaller than today's civic.
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No dice here on new TSB.... by nathan118
Aug 22, 2007 (11:47 am)
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Let me preface this post with the fact that I'm weird when it comes to cars. I get car sick easily, very, easily.
 
New TSB on the Camry still isn't cutting it. I think it's a little better, but still making me sick. At this point I'm looking to replace it. But that's not why I'm posting.
 
Without going too off-topic, in the last two days I've driven the following cars.
 
'07 Camry
'07 Civic
'07 Altima
 
I can say that all three drive almost identically. The CVT in the Altima is nice, but there is a problem with all of them. When I press the gas and brakes, I feel disconnected from the car. Whether it's drive by wire stuff, or something else (I'm sure wwest can shed some light on this). Then I've driven two other cars:
 
'01 Jetta (My wife's car)
'07 Jetta
 
These two cars drive identical, and COMPLETELY different from the previous three. When I press the gas, it goes, and it all feels so natural. Are the Volkswagens really made that diffently, because it feels like a completely different system. The Camry, Civic, Altima, all feel the same.
 
So that's where I'm at. Off to look at some Jettas! I love this forum.
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Re: No dice here on new TSB.... [nathan118] by wwest
Aug 22, 2007 (12:17 pm)
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Replying to: nathan118 (Aug 22, 2007 11:47 am)

Just now before I responded I Googled for:
 
Volkswagon hesitation
 
(Volkswagon, wrong spelling but that's the way I googled.)
 
Interesting, VERY interesting....
 
I suggest you do the same.
 
Up until just now I have been comfortable with my belief that this engine/transaxle delay/hesitation issue had to do ONLY with FWD and F/AWD vehicles. The first google hit as a result of the above search has made me begin to think otherwise.
 
But I suppose inadvertent (SURPRISE!) wheelslip due to engine compression braking at the rear can be just as detrimental as in the front in certain circumstances. Say for inexperienced drivers that tend to freeze up when something life threatening unexpectedly occurs. But I still content that this occurance is less threatening on the rear wheels since you still have traction at the front for maintaining directional control.
 
So maybe it has to do with the evolution of the firmware design of ALL automatic transmissions(***). The goal seems to be to make them act more like one would use a stick shift and clutch.
 
What was that Clint Eastwood fighter pilot movie awhile back wherein the airplane's "ECU" could read the pilot's mind?
 
Maybe that's where all this is headed. Just to avoid a clutch pedal....??
 
*** Or maybe not.
 
The Touareg can be in 4X4 mode wherein 50% of engine compression braking effects will be at the front wheels making it potentially just as unsafe as a FWD.
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Re: No dice here on new TSB.... [nathan118] by wwest
Aug 22, 2007 (12:25 pm)
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Replying to: nathan118 (Aug 22, 2007 11:47 am)

Let me say that I "feel" for you there.
 
I don't often feel the effects of my RX300's strange upshifting technique but rarely I do get that slightly queasy feeling in my stomach. Oftentimes if I think back I can usually attribute it to just having experienced a circumstance wherein the RX unexpectedly upshifts.
 
Sort of like that "here and quickly gone" momentarily out of control experience as you fly a light airplane through a slight/short up or down draft.
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Wheel slip can be bad front or back end by joel16
Aug 22, 2007 (12:33 pm)
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I see all too many people driving around here with tires that really should be replaced. They either have too little tread, or are too low profile compared to what is standard or recommended for the car. But, on average, I agree that it is, at least for me, easier to control a rear drive in a slip versus a front driver. I've driven plenty of both (rentals) and the rear drivers seem better, especially without traction control.
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Traded in my Camry for a Jetta by nathan118
Aug 23, 2007 (4:18 pm)
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Finally traded in the Camry and bought a new jetta, and I love it. Forget the supposed Toyota quality, I love the way the jetta drives, and finally feel like a huge weight has been lifted off my shoulders.
 
For all future Camry buyers, don't take my bad experience as a condemnation of the Camry, because I'm not exactly normal. What I recommend is driving a LOT of cars to see how they drive. For me, the Jetta felt completely different than most of the asian cars on the market, and for me that was a good thing. Everyone is different though, so go out and drive cars for yourself, and don't assume that a car will be good just because of the name on the back.
 
Good luck to everybody!
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Re: Traded in my Camry for a Jetta [nathan118] by teamtbo
Aug 23, 2007 (5:22 pm)
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Replying to: nathan118 (Aug 23, 2007 4:18 pm)

Nathan, glad to hear that you are happy with your new car! That is what matters. I am looking into trading in my 2007 Camry once I get the Title from the credit union. I think your advice for everyone is awesome. I wish I had done that before buying my Camry just because of the name on the back.
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Re: I've got an appointment... [joel16] by Canc
Aug 24, 2007 (4:52 pm)
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Replying to: joel16 (Aug 22, 2007 3:56 am)

I had a Prius before my Camry, and I never had any hesitations like this.
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2008 camry by denniskirk1
Aug 24, 2007 (6:57 pm)
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I went in for service on my land cruiser today 60k 4 wheel brakes 4 tires normal stuff and was waiting. I got a phone call and had to go right home to meet my contractor. The service manager let me take his new 2008 4cyl camry demo. It shifts very smooth to me it only has 75 miles on it. I drove it for about 2 hours total. Mabey thay fixed the shift problems you guys are haveing.
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Re: Have been following this review & would like to comment [collettev] by bohica223
Aug 24, 2007 (7:11 pm)
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Replying to: collettev (Aug 17, 2007 1:10 pm)

Ok here is the latest update on my battle with Toyota. Still no resolution on the car and all its problems but I do have an update on one of the things I'm doing about it. After speaking with a couple of TV stations and programs a couple are interested in airing a report on the 07 Camry. Toyotas stance when informed of all the problems with the car stated in here was, "Its hearsay" "It cant be verified." You cant produce proof that others are having these problems." Well after speaking with a few television reps, they suggested I get copies of the service reciepts from others in here with the same problems getting the same run around. How about it people..anyone interested in taking this further and letting Toyota and the public know that we do actually talk amongst ourselves? If anyone is interested I'll give them my address and they can send me copies of their service reports and Toyotas stand on the problems. (With personal info such as address and phone blacked out of course). I'm going ahead with this no matter what but copies of other peoples service reports pretty much eliminates the hearsay defense. I'll be more than happy to supply copies of my reports to anyone who wished them as well.

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