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2007 Toyota Camry Transmission Questions

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Re: I've got an appointment... [teamtbo] by nathan118
Aug 21, 2007 (11:47 am)
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Replying to: teamtbo (Aug 21, 2007 11:37 am)

Just talked to the dealer. Apparently "EG7031" is the operation code that they send to Toyota...but the guy confirmed that they did perform the newest TSB, EG036-07.
 
I'll drive it for a few days and see where I'm at.
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Re: I've got an appointment... [nathan118] by joel16
Aug 21, 2007 (12:01 pm)
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Replying to: nathan118 (Aug 21, 2007 11:47 am)

Ah, that clears it up...GREAT!!! I hope it works out for you too. Maybe the Toyota engineers got it right, or at least LESS WRONG.
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Re: I've got an appointment... [nathan118] by rfarke
Aug 21, 2007 (12:25 pm)
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Replying to: nathan118 (Aug 21, 2007 11:08 am)

When I got the EG056-06 done on my Camry last summer, the shop ticket there listed an operation number that was different from the TSB number. I suspect that isn't something to be alarmed about.
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Re: I've got an appointment... [rfarke] by user777
Aug 21, 2007 (6:30 pm)
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Replying to: rfarke (Aug 21, 2007 12:25 pm)

or something they are intentionally doing?
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Re: I've got an appointment... [wwest] by mcdawgg
Aug 21, 2007 (6:44 pm)
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Replying to: wwest (Aug 21, 2007 8:28 am)

This great explanation provides more reasons to get a manual transmission!
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Re: I've got an appointment... [mcdawgg] by joel16
Aug 22, 2007 (3:56 am)
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Replying to: mcdawgg (Aug 21, 2007 6:44 pm)

My service guy told me these types of problems don't occur on the manual transmission version of these cars. He did say all Toyota vehicles will be going drive by wire, as well as Hondas, and other Japanese brands. Two reasons mentioned (a) fuel economy (b) wear and tear on the engine and transmission. I suppose less wear and tear would help the Japanese offer longer warranties (some are fairly short compared to the American and other Asian brands). He didn't mention safety, but others on this forum have (re: upshift before downshift upon throttle lift). I would like to hear if this happens on the Hybrid versions. Anyone know?
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Re: I've got an appointment... [joel16] by mcdawgg
Aug 22, 2007 (8:13 am)
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Replying to: joel16 (Aug 22, 2007 3:56 am)

My service guy told me these types of problems don't occur on the manual transmission version of these cars.
 
True, I have a '07 Camry with a manual transmission.
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Re: I've got an appointment... [mcdawgg] by wwest
Aug 22, 2007 (10:24 am)
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Replying to: mcdawgg (Aug 22, 2007 8:13 am)

Yes, but if you have a manual transaxle it is presumed that:
 
1. You know to use the clutch INSTANTLY if your seat of the pants sensor indicates that the current level of engine compression is excessive for roadbed conditions.
 
2. You know, absolutely, not to downshift to a level that will result in loss of control due to excessive engine compression braking REGARDLESS of roadbed conditions.
 
3. You might shift down into 1st gear before coming to a full and complete stop but you do not engage the clutch unless you are certain of roadbed traction conditions.
 
4. You know that unlike a RWD or R/AWD w/stick shift you cannot use engine compression as "drag-braking" (braking only at the rear) to moderately brake the vehicle while simultaneously helping to maintain the vehicle's alignment with the roadbed or desired direction of travel.
 
That being said...
 
You may notice that fewer and fewer FWD and F/AWD vehicles are being made available in the marketplace, the RAV4 for instance. Apparently the industry feels that not everybody purchasing a FWD or F/AWD stick shift knows these RULES.
 
Additionally some of the FWD and F/AWD vehicles that do still have a stick shift have control firmware that will automatically UP-REV the engine to closely match roadspeed if the ECU determines that your downshift would result in an extraordinary level of engine compression braking.
 
Looks as if the new Suzuki SX4 stick shift uses that technique.
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Re: I've got an appointment... [wwest] by joel16
Aug 22, 2007 (11:28 am)
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Replying to: wwest (Aug 22, 2007 10:24 am)

I've read some material that said the similar/same firmware that is in automatics with manual shift mode (either at the stick, or shift paddles on steering wheel)is somehow incorporated in (what some call) a "straight drive" (aka stick shift). Good thing most of us didn't know the danger we were in 20-30 years ago with stick shift, or automatic, front drivers. I had a 1978 stickshift Honda Accord when they first came out and got into a fender bender on ice when I downshifted going around a corner. Now THAT car was fun to drive--a shapely tin can on wheels, weighed almost nothing, smaller than today's civic.
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No dice here on new TSB.... by nathan118
Aug 22, 2007 (11:47 am)
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Let me preface this post with the fact that I'm weird when it comes to cars. I get car sick easily, very, easily.
 
New TSB on the Camry still isn't cutting it. I think it's a little better, but still making me sick. At this point I'm looking to replace it. But that's not why I'm posting.
 
Without going too off-topic, in the last two days I've driven the following cars.
 
'07 Camry
'07 Civic
'07 Altima
 
I can say that all three drive almost identically. The CVT in the Altima is nice, but there is a problem with all of them. When I press the gas and brakes, I feel disconnected from the car. Whether it's drive by wire stuff, or something else (I'm sure wwest can shed some light on this). Then I've driven two other cars:
 
'01 Jetta (My wife's car)
'07 Jetta
 
These two cars drive identical, and COMPLETELY different from the previous three. When I press the gas, it goes, and it all feels so natural. Are the Volkswagens really made that diffently, because it feels like a completely different system. The Camry, Civic, Altima, all feel the same.
 
So that's where I'm at. Off to look at some Jettas! I love this forum.

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