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#91 of 171 Re: replacing the navi DVD and the problem in the TSB [terryp1]
by blueiedgod
Dec 01, 2009 (10:55 am)
I'd like ot update the dvd in my '07 CR-V. I've read elsewhere that there is a problem. Here's the TSB on that:
http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/A08-051.PDF
I got a letter that I hope is from Honda, and not from some other company pretending to be, offering the new DVD for $185, shipping included.
But I've read elsewhere that even if I very carefully remove the old DVD, the unit might scratch it and ruin it.
I assume the unit would do the same to the new DVD.
I'm thinking of stopping by the dealer and asking them about this removal/reinstallation problem and asking them, just to show me and for practice, how to remove and replace the DVD. Thus any scratching would be done by them.
Oh, and if Santa's reading, I'd like to know if the DVDs can be copied, and whether they're somehow made unique to each vehicle.
Wow, that is some pricey DVD map. I hope they make it out of gold.
I think what you have heard was just hearsay.
As to having the dealer show you how to do it... good luck. They are not in the business of showing people how to do things that they charge for. I am sure if you paid them, they would replace the DVD for you, or show you how, but not for free.
If you are looking for bootleg copy, seach torrents. I doubt anyone would post a link on here, and if they did, mods would delete it right away.
Good luck.
#92 of 171 Re: replacing the navi DVD and the problem in the TSB [blueiedgod]
by natoshoe
Dec 01, 2009 (12:09 pm)
185$ is actually cheap and would have me concerned if I doubted the authenticity of the letter for an additional reason.
The DVD over here in Europe goes for 350 Euros. Although I could buy it tax free which would be about 280euros, with the exchange rate that is still over 400 $.
I agree that getting the dealer to do anything for free might be only slightly less painful than going to the dentist. Before this, just try it. If you can open your home DVD player, you can open this one.
Maybe one day someone will figure out the firmware conflict so that I can use my NAV system again but now when I'm driving in The Netherlands, it shows me in California as I have to keep my US disc in it to set the clock for daylight savings, what a pain.
Needless to say, I'm becoming a slightly disgruntled customer which is sad because it is such a fine vehicle (except the huge turning radius).
#93 of 171 Re: replacing the navi DVD and the problem in the TSB [natoshoe]
by blueiedgod
Dec 02, 2009 (2:38 pm)
Maybe one day someone will figure out the firmware conflict so that I can use my NAV system again but now when I'm driving in The Netherlands, it shows me in California as I have to keep my US disc in it to set the clock for daylight savings, what a pain.
I would just buy an aftermarket, or a Honda headunit from a junk yard for while you are in NL. And keep the US headunit until you return stateside.
There are a much better alternatives to the stock headunit. Which for the US market is made by Panasonic, I believe. The issues you are having are probably because the EU Honda uses Apline built head-units.
I would just get a Pioneer AVIC or similar Alpine unit. Worse come to worst, you get a cheap Chinese headunit with a 2 year life expectancy, and just junk it when it is dead. And if it is not dead by the time you leave NL, sell it.
#94 of 171 Re: replacing the navi DVD and the problem in the TSB [blueiedgod]
by natoshoe
Dec 03, 2009 (5:08 am)
Thanks,
I agree with all that you said but I'd like to get it working because I may sell the vehicle over here before returning due to the strength of the Euro and difference in initial selling prices. I've been following the local used car market and basically at the current rate, I think I'll be able to sell it in '11 for about the same as it will cost me to purchase a new one upon return. It would be a good selling point to have the original in-dash functioning.
I believe that you are correct on the manufactureres but you appear to have more knowledge on the system. Which component are you calling the "head unit" and do you think if it were replaced by the referenced chinese head unit it would function.
One thing I haven't tried is to insert the disc, disconnect the battery and then reconnect to see if this would affect the firmware issue. I have a Norwegian friend who would allow me to borrow his European disc. Do you think this is worth the effort. Yes, I do have the code.
Thanks
Shoe
#95 of 171 Re: replacing the navi DVD and the problem in the TSB [natoshoe]
by blueiedgod
Dec 03, 2009 (10:53 am)
It is worth a try with the disc. But, I would suspect that because of the different manufacturers and possibly region related issue, the DVD will not work. But, it is worth a try. If it works, then you just buy the DVD from the dealer.
I think another reason you would want to get an EU spec'd headunit is the FM frequency range in EU is different from the US. I believe it is offset by 0.1 MHz.
I don't think that the relsale value is affected greately by having an aftermarket radio. If the buyer wants, you can offer them the choice of USDM headunit, or the EU headunit.
Another thing to worry about is that the buyer may not be able to register the vehicle in NL. I am not 100% sure, but I think the headlight pattern in the US is unique and may not pass the safety inspection in NL. You may have to check into that.
The cheap Chinese units are usually sold at Best buy as Dual brand, or similar should be available in NL at the electronics stores.
The nice thing about Pioneer AVIC is that you can change the background to match the Honda OEM graphics. I used Honda logo and uploaded it into the AVIC to make it looks like it was a Honda stock headunit, except for the small "Pioneer" logo on the lower bezel. I am sure other brands allow similar modifications.
#96 of 171 Re: replacing the navi DVD and the problem in the TSB [natoshoe]
by fatjack
Feb 03, 2010 (3:03 pm)
Yes I have the same problem. I copied the original DVD that got rid of the out of region error. Now when I have the copied USA disk in I can change the time etc. I think if we just have the correct .bas files and .ar0 files and did a find a replace it might work.
Why it shows me driving around California while in the czech republic make no sense.
#98 of 171 2010 CR-V aftermarket in-dash nav recommendations?
by jayk_pdx
Mar 31, 2010 (9:37 pm)
Just got a 2010 CR-V LX and I'm researching my nav upgrade options now. In terms of in-dash stuff (which I'd prefer) it looks like there are various choices from $400-$1.5K and up. I don't care about iPod control or video, but I want something that has a high-res screen and satellite radio interface. Right now I'm leaning towards the Pioneer AVIC-X910BT, but I've read it takes 30 seconds to start up, which sounds annoying.
It would be great to hear from anyone who's done this type of upgrade in a CR-V. What did you install? Are you happy with the unit?
#100 of 171 Re: 2010 CR-V aftermarket in-dash nav recommendations? [jayk_pdx]
by blueiedgod
Apr 07, 2010 (9:47 am)
I have the older AVIC 700BT and it is a nice system, if you know your way around Windows OS. It is fully customizeable, but also comes with typical Windows OS issues.
Weigh your prefenreces, and then decide.
The 30 second start up is an understatement. It is not fully functional, i.e. the radio will play, but you will not be able to use steering wheel controls, or change the stations for a full minute. It takes almost 2 minutes to connect to the phone. While it is connecting the response to inputs is delayed.
Would I recommend it? Sure, I like the options that Windows OS allows compared to hardware based systems, most of which require you to have a map DVD in the drive.
I have made mine look like it was a stock Honda system.
Check out www.avic411.com for more info.