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#160 of 171 Re: Continue post #149 [ken75]
by johnbradley
Nov 05, 2012 (12:33 pm)
To all CR-V owners who are displeased with the NAV system: you ought to send a complaint fax to American Honda, Customer Service, fax #(310) 783-3023. It appears Honda got stuck with a bunch of 2008 or earlier NAV systems when car sales dropped then and have been offing them on 2009, 2010, 2011, and, apparently, 2012 models to get rid of them. This is supposition since my CR-V 2011 NAV system and the others has deficiencies that were in some earlier models from manufacturers in China. I checked to try to replace mine and found many companies selling outdated NAV systems, with backup camera, etc. for around $300 to $500.
I have written to Honda USA, Japan, all corporate officers I could find addresses for. They finally gave me a $500 dealer credit with which I bought a update disc that really didn’t solve the problem at all, especially the Bluetooth deficiencies that are outlined in manuals but don’t function on the system (to get around that, they list phones that are “fully compatible,” yet no phone available in the U.S. as of September of this year is “fully compatible” with the outdated system in CR-V’s). I also purchased the deluxe mirror, which, along with fog lights, should have been on a “fully equipped” model as our CR-V was promoted to be.
Just word to the wise FYI: be sure to check your factory equipped tires on the CR-V since ours went 16,000 miles, down to 1/32nd", and we replaced them with decent tires, costing $1000. Every “luxury car” I have ever purchased had premium tires and a decent battery (the battery crapped out in 11 months. ) Honda shame on you!!
#161 of 171 Re: Continue post #149 [johnbradley]
by gra6ter1
Dec 10, 2012 (5:16 pm)
Thanks for the information. I purchased my 2012 CRV EXL in May. Since then, I have had two instances where the navigation system could not find the address of a well known store and hotel. When I entered the name of the store, it gave me a listing in Oregon, North Carolina? Same with the well known hotel. I am in California! My portable Garmin GPS did not give me this much trouble. I am disappointed in this feature. There doesn't seem to be an easy way to enter the street address without splitting the name of the city or street and then entering the street number. Google maps has the address as "Third" St. The street sign indicated "3rd" St. It is obvious that the system cannot distinguish from the two ways of spelling.
I have Continental Pro Cross tires on the car. I hope I get some decent wear on them.
#162 of 171 Re: Continue post #149 [gra6ter1]
by johnbradley
Dec 10, 2012 (6:23 pm)
There's a lot the Honda CRV-11 can't do and it would appear later editions are no better. I battled for some consideration from Honda for many months and, during that time, here at Edmunds and elsewhere, I received many Honda CR-V owner comments similar to yours and mine. It was our determination, though speculative, that Honda had ordered many thousands of the NAV systems in 2008 or before and then sales dropped so they failed to unload as many as they had on the shelf. Compared to other in-dash systems, (not to mention Garmins) it is steam-powered. The Bluetooth features are terribly deficient and, to cover that in their marketing, promotional materials and manuals, they attempt to blame it on owners' phones as being "not compatible" when, in fact, no phone produced in the U.S. IS compatible. Anyway, I've looked at some after-market systems and, as soon as the warranty runs out on this, I'll be replace mine with something that is commenserate with other late model autos that really are equipped with late model equipment.
Oh, also, we got only 16,000 miles on our factory equipped tires. Outrageous! and, for a "loaded" car, we wound up putting a good rear view mirror and fog lights on which, along with the tires, set us back almost $2000.
#163 of 171 Re: 2012 CRV EX-L w/Navi [dscrv12]
by steerpike
Jan 17, 2013 (12:19 pm)
it's quite amazing to be reading about this problem today. My '07 Acura has a laughable POI database; I reported back in '08 that a search for Shopping / Costco, while sitting in the Bay Area (CA), would bring up 'hits' in Alabama or Oregon or whatever, and the problem was widespread across multiple businesses and categories. I have resolved use my iPhone for initial address lookup, then I plug the address into the GPS (at which point it does a very good job of actually getting me there). You would think that they would have cleared this up by now, since it's a simple problem to fix (just have the database cleaned up - I could fix this myself in a week or two if I had access to all the info).
Any <$200 Garmin or Magellan or whatever gets this right; whoever works on the (Alpine?) solution should be fired for this! Having said that, I'll still buy the 'Nav' model just because it's always there, requires no wiring, etc, and - as mentioned - does a good job of getting you there once you do find your destination.
#164 of 171 Re: Continue post #149 [gra6ter1]
by johnbradley
Jan 18, 2013 (9:55 pm)
I don't bother much with the Honda's NAV system, even though it cost $1500, anymore. I use Google Maps, MapQuest, my phone or Garmin. I just figure the $1500 is wasted, as if I had bet black on a roulette table and it came up red.
As for the tires, it was Continential that last us 16k. Our roads here in Nevada are very mountainous and we have extreme weather so maybe you'll do better.
#165 of 171 Re: Thoughts on the 2013 NAV... [johnbradley]
by vat19
Mar 23, 2013 (5:35 am)
Hi John, we just bought a pair of CRV 2013, one LX and One EX. Do you know of a good after market Nav system? I am wanting a GPS to speak thru the car speakers and interupt the music when giving you directions, very much like when you receive a phone call. Thanks in advance
#167 of 171 Re: Thoughts on the 2013 NAV... [steve_]
by vat19
Mar 24, 2013 (5:37 am)
Thank you Steve
#168 of 171 Re: Thoughts on the 2013 NAV... [vat19]
by steve_ HOST
Mar 24, 2013 (6:22 am)
Interesting comment you made about skipping the NAV as it was a very expensive upgrade for 2008 technology. Honda reads these boards; maybe they'll get it figured out soon.
#169 of 171 Re: Thoughts on the 2013 NAV... [steve_]
by vat19
Mar 24, 2013 (8:52 am)
Yes Steve, I bought 2 CRV 2013 in the last 2 months, one an LX and one EX. Honda does not allow the built in NAV system as an upgrade or add on feature. If you want a built in NAV system they are forcing you to purchase an EX-L-NAV, which has the leather seats and a few other options, like upgraded stereo including a sub woofer which does not perform, dual zone AC, Auto climate control , electric seats and heated seats etc. The additional difference is $3,000 more. I have read in a forum where the NAV systems they are putting in these cars are old technology units that apparently you can purchase off ebay for about $300-$500. The CRV is great. I am on my second tank of gas and I am currently getting 33.9mpg according to the on board computer.. I just wish I can find a GPS NAV unit or system that would be able to intergrate with Honda's I-Mid system.