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#153 of 171 Thoughts on the 2013 NAV...
by wds1
Oct 22, 2012 (5:06 pm)
My parents, who are senior citizens, have finally decide to purchase a 2013 CR-V. They test drove a CR-V w/NAV. It is not because they had to have navigation, but it was available in the int./ext. color they wanted. They liked how the back up camera is largely viewed in the NAV screen. If you purchase NAV, aren't you getting an expanded view with the back up camera? Also, what are your thoughts on the 2013 NAV? Is it improved over the 2012, at all? If you are a senior, do you think the easy to see camera in the NAV area is a good safety feature? Thanks for any input you can provide!
#154 of 171 Re: Thoughts on the 2013 NAV... [wds1]
by snuke
Oct 23, 2012 (4:20 am)
I am retired, a senior citizen and purchased a 2012 CR-V. I purposely bought the CR-V w/NAV because of the large screen which helped me see the backup camera view better along with the radio station names. (I am a music lover). Many have complained about the NAV being outdated and since I have never used a GPS, I can't say that it is or is not. But, like your parents, I love the large screen and I, too, wanted a specific color interior/exterior. I have searched high and low and have not been able to find the difference in the 2012 CR-V and 2013 CR-V. I have been a Honda owner for over 20-yrs. and my past experience with Honda is that they will slightly change the back and/or front lights on their vehicles and not much else. If your parents are able to find the color interior/exterior they want in a 2012 CR-V, they will probably get a better deal than on a 2013 especially since Honda did not seem to change much of anything between the two. Oh by the way, I love my 2012 CR-V which I have had since June.
#155 of 171 Re: Thoughts on the 2013 NAV... [snuke]
by johnbradley
Oct 23, 2012 (11:05 am)
Well, someone who has never used a cell phone would pick up a 2009 "flip phone" and think it was wonderful. With little or no frame of reference, the Honda NAV is great. However, I've owned a Garmin GPS and rented GPS equipment when travelling, travelled with others in luxury cars with NAV equupment so my frame of reference is wide-ranging. From your perspective, the Honda NAV is probably super, however, from mine, it is decidedly sub-par and is definately not worth the $1500 - $2000 that Honda charges for this antique (2009 vintage) NAV equipment. Good luck with your CR-V. Check your tires often...........I only got 16,000 miles from the factory tires and spent $1000, less than a year later to get a decent set of tires on the car.
#156 of 171 Re: Thoughts on the 2013 NAV... [snuke]
by wds1
Oct 23, 2012 (11:08 am)
Thank you so much for you reply, Snuke. It really gives us a perspective from a senior citizen's point of view! They, too, have been long time Honda owners and are music lovers. The large screen is great, along with station listings, but I was a little concerned about their ability to use the navigation, as some have said it is not user friendly. One report I read said he wanted to pull it out and throw it out the window. HA! Anyway, I guess they will know more when they take a thorough look at it again when they visit the dealership. I don't think the CR-V's have changed from 2012 to 2013, other than some color changes, but they have just gotten an offer at invoice on the 2013. They are pleased with the OTD price, so I think they will take that offer, unless they decide to forgo the NAV. Thanks again for your input!
#157 of 171 garmin nuvi Much better
by brian125
Oct 25, 2012 (7:35 am)
I always find that my $200 Garmin Nuvi works much better than the dealer installed Nav system. Fast And very east to use. I have gotten the dealer Nav in 4 of my cars over the years and my wife is clueless and hates navigating thru them. Save your money.............
#158 of 171 Continue post #149
by ken75
Oct 27, 2012 (1:13 pm)
My wife just took her car (the 2011 CR-V) to Olathe, Ks. from St.paul and when she got near KC, the lovely Honda navi system steered her right through the center of town. No matter how many times she tried to get to the East of KC the nav system would not give her an alternate route. If you have ever had the misfortune of going through KC without really being familiar with it, good luck. The large screen is very nice to look at and the set up is easy but if it will not take you on the route you would like to take, it is not worth the extra money. My wife is a smart lady and knows how to use this thing so if she says not good things about it, we may just have to look at something with a decent nav system or as I stated previously, install a permanent Garmin Nuvi and that will solve the problem. At any rate, this will be the last Honda.
#159 of 171 The Honda NAV is stupid
by bmfc
Nov 05, 2012 (5:32 am)
I type in the name of a local business and the NAV gives me listings in other states. I'm in MD and for a restaurant 10 minutes away, it gave me a restaurant with the same name in Texas. The system doesn't comprehend where you are.
I bought the new disc. There's a new highway near me but the new disc only picks up HALF of the highway. That's right: I'm on it and the system has me on vacant land but eventually picks it up. How does this make sense?
#160 of 171 Re: Continue post #149 [ken75]
by johnbradley
Nov 05, 2012 (12:33 pm)
To all CR-V owners who are displeased with the NAV system: you ought to send a complaint fax to American Honda, Customer Service, fax #(310) 783-3023. It appears Honda got stuck with a bunch of 2008 or earlier NAV systems when car sales dropped then and have been offing them on 2009, 2010, 2011, and, apparently, 2012 models to get rid of them. This is supposition since my CR-V 2011 NAV system and the others has deficiencies that were in some earlier models from manufacturers in China. I checked to try to replace mine and found many companies selling outdated NAV systems, with backup camera, etc. for around $300 to $500.
I have written to Honda USA, Japan, all corporate officers I could find addresses for. They finally gave me a $500 dealer credit with which I bought a update disc that really didn’t solve the problem at all, especially the Bluetooth deficiencies that are outlined in manuals but don’t function on the system (to get around that, they list phones that are “fully compatible,” yet no phone available in the U.S. as of September of this year is “fully compatible” with the outdated system in CR-V’s). I also purchased the deluxe mirror, which, along with fog lights, should have been on a “fully equipped” model as our CR-V was promoted to be.
Just word to the wise FYI: be sure to check your factory equipped tires on the CR-V since ours went 16,000 miles, down to 1/32nd", and we replaced them with decent tires, costing $1000. Every “luxury car” I have ever purchased had premium tires and a decent battery (the battery crapped out in 11 months. ) Honda shame on you!!
#161 of 171 Re: Continue post #149 [johnbradley]
by gra6ter1
Dec 10, 2012 (5:16 pm)
Thanks for the information. I purchased my 2012 CRV EXL in May. Since then, I have had two instances where the navigation system could not find the address of a well known store and hotel. When I entered the name of the store, it gave me a listing in Oregon, North Carolina? Same with the well known hotel. I am in California! My portable Garmin GPS did not give me this much trouble. I am disappointed in this feature. There doesn't seem to be an easy way to enter the street address without splitting the name of the city or street and then entering the street number. Google maps has the address as "Third" St. The street sign indicated "3rd" St. It is obvious that the system cannot distinguish from the two ways of spelling.
I have Continental Pro Cross tires on the car. I hope I get some decent wear on them.
#162 of 171 Re: Continue post #149 [gra6ter1]
by johnbradley
Dec 10, 2012 (6:23 pm)
There's a lot the Honda CRV-11 can't do and it would appear later editions are no better. I battled for some consideration from Honda for many months and, during that time, here at Edmunds and elsewhere, I received many Honda CR-V owner comments similar to yours and mine. It was our determination, though speculative, that Honda had ordered many thousands of the NAV systems in 2008 or before and then sales dropped so they failed to unload as many as they had on the shelf. Compared to other in-dash systems, (not to mention Garmins) it is steam-powered. The Bluetooth features are terribly deficient and, to cover that in their marketing, promotional materials and manuals, they attempt to blame it on owners' phones as being "not compatible" when, in fact, no phone produced in the U.S. IS compatible. Anyway, I've looked at some after-market systems and, as soon as the warranty runs out on this, I'll be replace mine with something that is commenserate with other late model autos that really are equipped with late model equipment.
Oh, also, we got only 16,000 miles on our factory equipped tires. Outrageous! and, for a "loaded" car, we wound up putting a good rear view mirror and fog lights on which, along with the tires, set us back almost $2000.