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#86 of 95
Re: USA GPS to Europe [swingwing] by fatjack
Oct 29, 2009 (1:29 pm)
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Replying to: swingwing (May 31, 2009 6:46 am)

I still have not had any success, had some near success but in the end did not work and burned a lot of dual layer disks. So my latest idea - I read on some sites about replacing the start-up nag screen. I have not studied it but looked and it seemed like there was a replace X file with File on disk. So if we know the command to replace a file, perhaps we can replace the USA .ARO files then find out how to add a file.
Would love to just pay someone to get the damn thing working.
 
For the person who wants to reset the clock - remove battery cables - then reattache - you will need the Nav and stereo security codes
#87 of 95
Re: USA GPS to Europe [fatjack] by natoshoe
Oct 29, 2009 (11:41 pm)
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Replying to: fatjack (Oct 29, 2009 1:29 pm)

You can change the time if you the original disc by placing it in. My US disc shows me in CA vice the Netherlands but gives me the ability to change the time.
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replacing the navi DVD and the problem in the TSB by terryp1
Nov 26, 2009 (10:23 am)
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I'd like ot update the dvd in my '07 CR-V. I've read elsewhere that there is a problem. Here's the TSB on that:
http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/A08-051.PDF
I got a letter that I hope is from Honda, and not from some other company pretending to be, offering the new DVD for $185, shipping included.
But I've read elsewhere that even if I very carefully remove the old DVD, the unit might scratch it and ruin it.
I assume the unit would do the same to the new DVD.
I'm thinking of stopping by the dealer and asking them about this removal/reinstallation problem and asking them, just to show me and for practice, how to remove and replace the DVD. Thus any scratching would be done by them.
Oh, and if Santa's reading, I'd like to know if the DVDs can be copied, and whether they're somehow made unique to each vehicle.
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Re: replacing the navi DVD and the problem in the TSB [terryp1] by sr146260211
Nov 26, 2009 (1:06 pm)
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Replying to: terryp1 (Nov 26, 2009 10:23 am)

Just had to weigh in on this talk if no one minds......
 
Had two Honda's with Nav systems, but this time around, I opted out of purchasing my new 2010 CR-V with one that cost $2,000 grand more, and got a 7 inch portable Magellan for $249.00 now on sale for $199.00 (black friday) at Amazan.com. Cost for a map update is $49.00 each time, not the higher Honda price. Toyota is even higher for their map dvd's.
 
Learned my lesson not to fork over so much money and now have a GPS that goes with me....
 
Good luck with your question terryp1
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Re: replacing the navi DVD and the problem in the TSB [sr146260211] by natoshoe
Nov 27, 2009 (9:37 am)
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Replying to: sr146260211 (Nov 26, 2009 1:06 pm)

Terryp,
 
Rest assured the DVD is easy to remove, I've done it multiple times trying to get a nav disc from Europe to work but there is a firmware comflict so I'm still navless in The Netherlands. Just open the screen console, open the little plastic door over the navDVD and eject it. I can't see the disc being in any more danger than a regular dvd/cd in any home player.
 
Although the little door that covers the navDVD player will shut on it's own when you close the screen console, close it manually first. This will prevent the little plastic flap from getting caught on the screen console and popping off. Still no worries as mine popped back on after it caught one time when I forgot to close it.
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Re: replacing the navi DVD and the problem in the TSB [terryp1] by blueiedgod
Dec 01, 2009 (9:55 am)
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Replying to: terryp1 (Nov 26, 2009 10:23 am)

I'd like ot update the dvd in my '07 CR-V. I've read elsewhere that there is a problem. Here's the TSB on that:
http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/A08-051.PDF
I got a letter that I hope is from Honda, and not from some other company pretending to be, offering the new DVD for $185, shipping included.
But I've read elsewhere that even if I very carefully remove the old DVD, the unit might scratch it and ruin it.
I assume the unit would do the same to the new DVD.
I'm thinking of stopping by the dealer and asking them about this removal/reinstallation problem and asking them, just to show me and for practice, how to remove and replace the DVD. Thus any scratching would be done by them.
Oh, and if Santa's reading, I'd like to know if the DVDs can be copied, and whether they're somehow made unique to each vehicle.

 
Wow, that is some pricey DVD map. I hope they make it out of gold.
 
I think what you have heard was just hearsay.
 
As to having the dealer show you how to do it... good luck. They are not in the business of showing people how to do things that they charge for. I am sure if you paid them, they would replace the DVD for you, or show you how, but not for free.
 
If you are looking for bootleg copy, seach torrents. I doubt anyone would post a link on here, and if they did, mods would delete it right away.
 
Good luck.
#92 of 95
Re: replacing the navi DVD and the problem in the TSB [blueiedgod] by natoshoe
Dec 01, 2009 (11:09 am)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Dec 01, 2009 9:55 am)

185$ is actually cheap and would have me concerned if I doubted the authenticity of the letter for an additional reason.
 
The DVD over here in Europe goes for 350 Euros. Although I could buy it tax free which would be about 280euros, with the exchange rate that is still over 400 $.
 
I agree that getting the dealer to do anything for free might be only slightly less painful than going to the dentist. Before this, just try it. If you can open your home DVD player, you can open this one.
 
Maybe one day someone will figure out the firmware conflict so that I can use my NAV system again but now when I'm driving in The Netherlands, it shows me in California as I have to keep my US disc in it to set the clock for daylight savings, what a pain.
 
Needless to say, I'm becoming a slightly disgruntled customer which is sad because it is such a fine vehicle (except the huge turning radius).
#93 of 95
Re: replacing the navi DVD and the problem in the TSB [natoshoe] by blueiedgod
Dec 02, 2009 (1:38 pm)
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Replying to: natoshoe (Dec 01, 2009 11:09 am)

Maybe one day someone will figure out the firmware conflict so that I can use my NAV system again but now when I'm driving in The Netherlands, it shows me in California as I have to keep my US disc in it to set the clock for daylight savings, what a pain.
 
I would just buy an aftermarket, or a Honda headunit from a junk yard for while you are in NL. And keep the US headunit until you return stateside.
 
There are a much better alternatives to the stock headunit. Which for the US market is made by Panasonic, I believe. The issues you are having are probably because the EU Honda uses Apline built head-units.
 
I would just get a Pioneer AVIC or similar Alpine unit. Worse come to worst, you get a cheap Chinese headunit with a 2 year life expectancy, and just junk it when it is dead. And if it is not dead by the time you leave NL, sell it.
#94 of 95
Re: replacing the navi DVD and the problem in the TSB [blueiedgod] by natoshoe
Dec 03, 2009 (4:08 am)
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Replying to: blueiedgod (Dec 02, 2009 1:38 pm)

Thanks,
 
I agree with all that you said but I'd like to get it working because I may sell the vehicle over here before returning due to the strength of the Euro and difference in initial selling prices. I've been following the local used car market and basically at the current rate, I think I'll be able to sell it in '11 for about the same as it will cost me to purchase a new one upon return. It would be a good selling point to have the original in-dash functioning.
 
I believe that you are correct on the manufactureres but you appear to have more knowledge on the system. Which component are you calling the "head unit" and do you think if it were replaced by the referenced chinese head unit it would function.
 
One thing I haven't tried is to insert the disc, disconnect the battery and then reconnect to see if this would affect the firmware issue. I have a Norwegian friend who would allow me to borrow his European disc. Do you think this is worth the effort. Yes, I do have the code.
 
Thanks
Shoe
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Re: replacing the navi DVD and the problem in the TSB [natoshoe] by blueiedgod
Dec 03, 2009 (9:53 am)
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Replying to: natoshoe (Dec 03, 2009 4:08 am)

It is worth a try with the disc. But, I would suspect that because of the different manufacturers and possibly region related issue, the DVD will not work. But, it is worth a try. If it works, then you just buy the DVD from the dealer.
 
I think another reason you would want to get an EU spec'd headunit is the FM frequency range in EU is different from the US. I believe it is offset by 0.1 MHz.
 
I don't think that the relsale value is affected greately by having an aftermarket radio. If the buyer wants, you can offer them the choice of USDM headunit, or the EU headunit.
 
Another thing to worry about is that the buyer may not be able to register the vehicle in NL. I am not 100% sure, but I think the headlight pattern in the US is unique and may not pass the safety inspection in NL. You may have to check into that.
 
The cheap Chinese units are usually sold at Best buy as Dual brand, or similar should be available in NL at the electronics stores.
 
The nice thing about Pioneer AVIC is that you can change the background to match the Honda OEM graphics. I used Honda logo and uploaded it into the AVIC to make it looks like it was a Honda stock headunit, except for the small "Pioneer" logo on the lower bezel. I am sure other brands allow similar modifications.

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