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#76 of 659 Re: No warning for low oil defect [bigjohn281]
Mar 03, 2010 (4:24 pm)
I did not had any engine trouble on the 2005 I had, but my friend did. His engine went out at 30,000 miles. He bought it used and it had the certified 100,000 mile warranty. I am wondering, too, if Cadillac has a problem with their engines. I rolled into the dealership with my 2009 CTS with 8,000 miles for the first oil change. I talked to the service advisor and he said that they were now recommending 6,000 mile oil changes; they were having problems with some of the engines at 50,000 miles. He said not to go by the monitor. My monitor would have let me go at least 10,000 miles.
#77 of 659 Re: No warning for low oil defect [temj12]
Mar 04, 2010 (6:40 am)
the question is who is "they" that are recommending the 6K oil change....most of the issues I see here are for low oil/oil consumption by the older MY CTS engines...and lack of warning light indicators......I would ask did the oil pressure guage give any indication of a problem?....
I too have an 09 CTS with the non-DI engine.....I check oil levels in all my cars monthly, along with tire pressure and air filters.....just part of routine maintenance on my part.....oil changes are all sythnetic, done by the GMOL usually around the 6-7K mark or about 25-30% on the indicator.....have 3 GM vehicle....04 Chevy with 160K, 06 Pontiac with 40K and the 09 Cady with 22K on it.....and follow the above process with all three.....no issues at all with any of them oil related....
#78 of 659 Re: No warning for low oil defect [pao]
Mar 04, 2010 (1:11 pm)
I am certainly not saying that I let my maintenance go. I, too, check the oil on a regular basis. That is just common sense if you want to make an engine last. When I had my 2005 CTS, I went to the Cadillac dealership to get the oil changed at 5,000 miles. He told me that was not necessary because it was synthetic, and that I needed to go by the monitor. I asked the dealership on the last oil change if they were still going by that recommendation. At 8,000 miles, mine was at 40% and I just did not want to go any further. He told me that they, the Cadillac dealership, were now recommending 6,000 miles because what they had found was that, if you went by the monitor and the number of miles it allows, they were beginning to have engine problems at around 50,000 miles on some of the 08's and 09's. They attributed this to people changing their oil in the 8,000 to 10,000 miles range.
#79 of 659 Re: No warning for low oil defect [temj12]
Mar 05, 2010 (6:16 am)
OK so it was your specific dealership that recommended the change......did they specify what kind of engine problems they were encountering.....Im sure some of the 08s and a few 09s are in that mileage range now....just wondering the population size of the dealership's "08/09" engine problems they are basing this recommendation on....and why they directly attribute it to not changing the oil on a more frequent basis...as opposed to a service bulletin released from GM with such a recommendation.
My driving habits dont allow me that 8-10K range between changes even using the GMOL....which I usually let go to the 25-30% range before I change (6-7K range)...I also wonder if the problem engines have used a synthetic or dino oil?....I beleive the new CTSs come with synthetic in them from the factory now....I run only mobil 1 or pennzoil platinum synthetic in all my cars.....and have no problems at all....
Im just always leary of a dealership pushing their "own" service schedule vice that of the manufacturer.......all of em do it if you let them.....havent seen a dealership yet that doesnt have a nice little flyer at the service desk with their own specific schedule....which most of the time is far more stricter in frequency and services than listed in the owners manual.....
#80 of 659 Second thoughts - similar issues
Mar 06, 2010 (5:55 am)
I am looking at an '08 CTS DI AWD and after reading through all these engine issues I am VERY hesitant to continue my Caddy Quest. I currently own a '98 Regal GS Supercharged. Around 60k miles, the car started shutting down while driving, similar to what I'm reading here about the CTS engines. It would restart again after 10-20 attempts and seem to run fine. No mechanic could ever figure it out, and then one day, it just never happened again! The car now has 212k on it and is running like new still (except for slight bearing rattle from Supercharger nose). I would have sworn that they 'program' these problems into the engines.
I may take the CTS for a test drive and just LISTEN to her. Thought about BMW, Infinity, Acura... but have always owned domestic (no real reason) and love the look and power of the CTS, especially with the DI.
#81 of 659 Re: Second thoughts - similar issues [tunatoo]
Mar 06, 2010 (5:27 pm)
most of the issues here appear to be engine lock from low oil...as I read the more recent ones....not sure you will see that problem if at all in the new design CTS...08 and beyond.......quite happy with my 09 CTS with 23 k on it now
#82 of 659 Re: Second thoughts - similar issues [tunatoo]
Mar 08, 2010 (7:41 am)
I have a 2007 CTS (3.6L) with 30K miles on it. I change the oil at around 7500 miles or so. I always check the engine oil level prior to the change just to see if there is an oil consumption issue. Never seen it down even a half quart.
#83 of 659 Re: 2004 CTS 3.6 Engine Failure [jung1210]
Mar 20, 2010 (3:56 pm)
Good afternoon. I am sorry to hear about the problems you have had.
The main reason why I have decided to reply to your post is souly due to the fact you are ( or were ) thinking the same thing I have been. Class action lawsuit. I normally wouldnt be saying this but GM needs to own up to some of this. I have a 05 CTS 3.8. with 58,xxx miles. I bought mine from a local dealer here is St.Peters Mo. I decided to buy it from a reputable Cadillac dealer ship, come to find out it didnt matter. The Cadillacs all have issues along with the dealer ship and GM. We had our car maybe a month and noticed that it was running wierd, not necessarily knocking but hesitating. After bringing it to the dealership almost 3 times they finally fessed up and said that the water pump was bad. About another month went by and the car started doing the same thing. Thank God I hopped on line and seen all of this. I'm not the most knowledgable about cars but I know enough. At this point the car only had 50,xxx miles on it. Need less to say that I only put 3 or 4,xxx miles on it after I bought it. The dealer said they just changed the oil so I didnt think about that. After I seen all of this I checked the oil to realize it was at least 3 quarts low. I was shocked, I have been checking it regularly and I add about a quart every 2 weeks. This isnt normal, I traded my Honda with 130,xxx miles on it for this. WOW. Thanks GM for screwing us loyal AMERICANS!!! What do I or we do now? How unfare would it be to sell this to someone and dump this in their lap? If you are a cadillac owner with these issues, your stuck. We need to have GM cover this. Lets stick together and get our problem solved. If anyone gets together for a law suit, I want in...Good luck...636-295-5672
#84 of 659 2005 CTS engine oil consumption issues - THANKS GM
Mar 20, 2010 (4:06 pm)
I wanted to take a quick minute and let everyone know who reads this that if there are so many of us Cadillac owners who have had issues, there has to be someone out there who can help get this resloved. Whether it be by hiring a lawyer, everyone of us calling GM or even the most extreme... Picketing !!!! This is just insane. if anything we need to make the public aware of these issues. The typical Cadillac owner wont buy this car with the understanding that they need to check the oil regularly, at least not with in 3 or 4,xxx miles. Its common knowledge that if you run synthetic oil you can go longer than 3,xxx miles. Thats where I believe the problem comes in at. When I bought my used Cadillac the dealership said no worries. You dont need to change the oil but every 8,xxx miles. If your Cadillac burns oil like mine, by the time you hit that 8,xxx mile mark it will be to late. This is not my first post. Come on people, lets stick together and get something resolved. Good luck and God Bless....vincebangeyahoo.com
#85 of 659 Re: 2004 CTS 3.6 Engine Failure [building4bri]
Mar 23, 2010 (10:53 am)
Since this happened to my car i have been warning everyone I see driving a CTS . I was telling a lady at the gas station about this problem because she was driving a CTS and we checked her oil which turned out to be about 2 quarts low and that blew her mind . I called an engine rebuilder and he laughed at me and said they have a policy of not rebuilding Cadillac engines period .