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#687 of 721 Re: Those of Us. . . [cdnpinhead]
Aug 09, 2013 (10:25 pm)
I'm glad I found these series of posts to give me some peace of mind. Regardless of what some of you may think my purchase, but I happened to buy a used 2005 Cadillac CTS 2.8 from a dealership and was surprised to see the engine light turn a week after my purchase. The engine ran great, didn't feel any abnormalities with the exception of the entire car shaking when you would turn on the air conditioner heater. Pretty easy to confirm as you can turn on the AC/Heating and immediately feel the "kicking" sensation. However since I live in cold-ass Canada I didn't really bother with it, even though the car would consume more gas with the heating on than off.
The problem I faced was three months into the purchase when driving from 0 -60 km/hour. After driving for a few months I had a pretty good "feel" as to what was normal acceleration and started feeling irregular gear shifts and "stuttering" coming from the engine. A shriek would sometimes be heard when accelerating/sounding like an awful acceleration noise.
Since my Transmission fluid was at 14% and my engine oil was 20% I figured my transmission oil needed changing. The oil percentage was at 95% when I first bought the vehicle and I thought it was going to be a transmission problem. After taking it to Canadian Tire the mechanic told me that the oil level was dangerously low! And that by replacing the oil the issue with acceleration would dissapear. After the service the engine light also dissapeared and would not come back on again.
I'd like to mention that prior to the service the engine light would either turn off and then turn back on, or would randomly flash occasionally.
With the oil and transmission oil fully replaced I drove for another 4-5months only to find the "stuttering" happening again along with the acceleration grinding issue happenign again now that the car is at 24% oil life (96% transmission). After restarting the engine the "check engine oil" message came on. SO it makes me conclude that the Cadillac CTS takes much more oil than expected and the % indicator for oil should NOT ever be trusted. Thankfully I know what the problem is with the onscreen diagnostics message and the engine light coming on (it's off now), and I will replace the oil in the morning, but it's a shocker to me that the on-screen diagnostics are simply not accurate.
Point taken - check your engine oil regularly and change the oil before it reaches 30%.
As I've only driven for the day to experience this issue, I'm hoping there's no permanent damage. Will keep everyone one posted after the service tomorrow.
#688 of 721 Re: Those of Us. . . [baberpervez]
Aug 10, 2013 (4:53 am)
Sell the car.
#689 of 721 Re: Those of Us. . . [cdnpinhead]
Aug 10, 2013 (8:48 am)
AGREE SELL THE CAR !!!
REALLY REALLY FAST !!
#690 of 721 Re: Those of Us. . . [cdnpinhead]
Aug 10, 2013 (8:48 am)
AGREE SELL THE CAR !!!
REALLY REALLY FAST !!
#691 of 721 Black Cloud CTS
Aug 10, 2013 (12:48 pm)
This you will not believe!!!
2007 CTS -NICE veh--Vinyl top, leather seats, pin stripping, alloy wheels gleaming in the Florida sun!!
Man, what a sight!(Better I had been blind.) !475 miles on odometer.
Two weeks later, a scratch appeared fully along the right side. First trip to body shop. $!400.00--ins paid
All was well until June 2011 1330 hrs(1:30 pm). While on a trip to Augusta, Ga, I killed a 200 lb buck with the front of my CTS.( all cosmetic damage and we finished our trip with hood bunged down ) 2nd trip to Body shop. $4400.00---ins paid- no deductable.
Two weeks later, at 31000 mi, threw timing chain. Oil level was aok. First trip to mechanic.
Two days later, call confirmed timing chain. Two days later,call confirmed bent valves.
Four days later, call revealed cracked engine block and that I needed a complete new engine! $9050.00
Thank God we had a 'Bumper to bumper' warranty!!!
It ain't over yet!
Three weeks after getting CTS back, a man backed into the right rear quarter panel in Publix parking lot. 3rd trip to Body Shop. Ins paid $1800.00 --no deductable.
Now, we're happily driving and enjoying our Black Cloud CTS-----THEN----last Tuesday while on I 75 south bound, a miss began. Got off and stopped for a traffic light 250 ft from my destination. Engine died. 2nd trip to Mech. Two days later, Cadillac informed me that I need to overhaul the engine ($6000+) or install another new one.(9000+?!) 73,346 mi on car (42,000 mi on 2nd engine)
Service manager(felt sorry for me) gave me the number for Cadillac Cust Care. Related this story to them and at present, I am waiting for a call back to let me know if they will help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please excuse my pessimism but---------HA HA HA Ha ha
Happy In Florida! (Although I'm not quite sure why..???)
PS: I have had to put 7 qts of oil in this 36L engine in less than 1500 mi
#692 of 721 OOPS!!! re:Blk Cld CTS
Aug 11, 2013 (4:36 am)
I entered the wrong date of the deer incident--it should be June 2010 NOT June 2011.
FYI - actual date of first failure was 8/2010. WOW, I get to buy a new engine every 3 yrs!
#693 of 721 Re: Black Cloud CTS [jwilli51]
Aug 12, 2013 (4:54 pm)
We see that you've been through quite an ordeal with your Cadillac. If you would like for us to check on the status of your case with Cadillac Customer Service please send us your VIN. If there is anything else we can help with please let us know.
GM Customer Care
#694 of 721 Re: Black Cloud CTS [gmcustsvc]
Aug 13, 2013 (11:01 am)
Case # 71-1213091010 vin #1G6DP577970158
Thank you in advance for your help
#695 of 721 Re: Black Cloud CTS [jwilli51]
Aug 15, 2013 (4:39 pm)
Good luck indeed. Mine burns a quart every 1,800 miles and I never got a reply to my somewhat jaded inquiry.
#696 of 721 Re: Two more CTS engine problems to add to the list [gmcustsvc]
Aug 16, 2013 (5:31 am)
They can't diagnose it over the internet AND they can't diagnose it if you bring it to the dealership either, because I fell for that yesterday. They said, 'bring the car in, so we can hook it up to our diagnostics' So I did. GUESS how that went. According to Jeremy at autonation (gm dealer in Port Richey, FL.) they hooked it up, but wouldn't be able to tell me if the cam needed a shim, or the timing belt was gone, or the cylinder had to be replaced. To quote Jeremy, "best case scenario" you're looking at about $400, $500, "worse case scenario" you're looking maybe $2200 or more if the timing belt is worn, but I can't tell until I take the top of the motor off and see what's going on. WOW, thought you told me I had a 'SMART CAR' that would tell you what's going on 'once you got it hooked up REALLY????? 54,000 MILES, AND I COULD BE LOOKING AT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN REPAIRS. Buy a CADILLAC, GM'S finest, and right after 50,000 miles, I have major problems with the motor???I'll bet when they do get your car in, you won't get an answer until they pull the engine apart, and then what will you do when they say it's thousands o dollars, and they've got you by the crank shaft???? "Put it back together" and WHAT WILL THAT COST YOU?????? to put it back the way they found it? The diagnostics is right around $100.00. But, pulling the top of the engine and putting it back???? REALLY??? TO FIND OUT WHAT'S WRONG???? I still owe 7 grand on this car, and it's gonna sit in my driveway. Well, that was my CADILLAC EXPERIENCE" What's yours????