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#193 of 721 Re: My 2005 Cadillac engine just blew/siezed [carlamoreno]
Mar 14, 2011 (4:13 am)
so as I read your message..the car was 5 years old when you bought it correct, thus there would have been no warranty on the car..unless you purchased a dealer offered one or a third party warranty...GMs drive train warranty is 5 years or 100K which ever comes first which they began to offer on all GM models in 07...and their bumper to bumper on Cadillac is 4/50K if memory serves me correct how many miles where on this car when you purchased iteither way you were out of the manufacturer warranty window....as for the noise that was heard, rattle or otherwise....did you or your husband check the oil level before you drove the car further?..just curious as to why the engine seized in the first place....did it have oil in it???
I currently own on 09 CTS with no problems on it through 37K
#194 of 721 Re: My 2005 Cadillac engine just blew/siezed [pao]
Mar 14, 2011 (7:24 am)
Thanks for your reply. The car had about 70k when I bought it, so I assume this was already out of warranty when I purchased it. Yes it had oil in it. I recently had an oil change as well and there were no "change/check oil warnings" before this incident. So far, dealing with Cadillac has been a waste of time. I never got a response to my online inquiry/letter and I have yet to receive a call back from a "supervisor" which I requested last week when I called the 800#. At this point I feel I am SOL as far as receiving any assistance from Cadillac. I am extremely disappointed that I paid cash outright for a car 5 years old and now have to invest another 5-6k into it so it is not a complete loss.
#195 of 721 Re: My 2005 Cadillac engine just blew/siezed [bigjohn281]
Mar 14, 2011 (7:27 am)
So far no luck with much of anything from Cadillac. It's like pulling teeth just to get a call or email response. I suppose they are not too concerned about issues with an 05 and more focused on selling selling selling. This whole experience has lasft a bad taste in my mouth about GM as a whole.
#196 of 721 This Car Doesn't Have. . .
Mar 14, 2011 (7:37 am)
an oil level sensor, and the "change oil" message is driven by time, mileage and other parameters, none of which have anything to do with oil level.
The ONLY way to know if your engine has enough oil in it is to use the dipstick and find out. . .regularly. At least these cars have dipsticks. Some don't these days, and the oil level sensors that are used instead are sometimes unreliable.
By the time you've lost oil pressure and the aptly-named idiot light comes on, it's too late, although it sounds like this engine grenades prior to even the LOP (low oil pressure) light.
#197 of 721 Re: My 2005 Cadillac engine just blew/siezed [carlamoreno]
Mar 14, 2011 (7:55 am)
I know how you feel, I purchased a 2003 and in Oct 2009 had minor issues and then 5 months later the problem started.....I have spent $5,000 plus on this car since I have had it......Cadillac says because the previous owner did not use a authorized dealer to have the car served....there is no record of servicing and they could not help me!!!!! I did not purchase a warranty....the first chance I get I will be trading the car in for a Honda!!!!!
#198 of 721 General Comments
Mar 15, 2011 (4:20 am)
a general comment here....Im sorry to hear that some folks are having trouble with their cars ..but the general statement of faulting GM or the brand name..when you purchased a 5-6 year old car..with 70K plus miles on it...with an unknown maintenance history, out of warranty and then turning around and complaining that either a dealership or a company will not help you out with costs or repairs is faulty logic....
I would assume that both cars purchased above had the infamous, no warranty sold as is stickers in the windows when the purchase was made..I have to agree with the poster that stated once the check oil light comes on its too late....you stated you had oil in it...did you physically check the dip stick?....I know basic questions....what has been discovered in some cases is the oil is somehow pooling through the exhaust in the catalytic converter..those no evidence of leakage....
Im not trying to defend any position here, and I realize its difficult and frustrating in dealing with car issues, repairs, etc.....lesson learned here..never buy a used car without a documented maintenance history and I personally would never purchased one that wasnt certified by a dealership more than two years old and less than 40K on it.....Having owned over 27 different cars in 40 plus years..I can say I have only bought two used ones....and they were secondary transportation and not my primary vehicle.....one (Fiat) went on for 12 years and close to 200K over one more owner past me (gave it up in 1979), and the second a Opel, purchased in Germany, ran great for two years for I donated it when I left the country in 1983...
At this point I would shop around for a good crate engine and an independent shop to install it.....
#199 of 721 Re: General Comments [pao]
Mar 15, 2011 (7:25 am)
Then do me a BIG favor and don't comment at all . To make the stetements you make belittles the actual damages that these people have mentally and financially endured . This engine has a DEFECT and the fact that it is happening to so many people in so many places tells us this . According to you these people got what they paid for and then what they deserved which is so far from the truth you could never understand it . Don't apologise for making an unnecessary coment and then make one . If you really want to help fund the engine rebuilds that everyone of these people need and then you will reap the benefits of your insensitivity.
#200 of 721 Re: General Comments [bigjohn281]
Mar 16, 2011 (4:56 am)
I think I made myself perfectly clear in the first paragraph of my comments...Im didnt belittle anyone nor do I not have empathy for the frustration and resources this costs folks.....the point I was making is its an uphill battle to expect any corporation to accept responsibility for anything out of its warranty period....
perhaps there is a defect in the engine...forums like this always bring out the problems and seldom the praise....but until someone can show the statistics...total produced, total failures, documented causes, and whether OEM recommended maintenance was followed across each model year, it cant be statistically determined if it is actually faulty or not..even then what is considered a defect....1% or 5% or higher??
I would challenge you to identify the total number of occurrences instead of making the broad statement so many individuals in so many places...there have been what..perhaps a dozen or so on the board...thats just my guess..
It is always a risk to purchase a used car...carfax and the other "reporting" companies are never entirely accurate...unless the car is always serviced at the dealer, there is no way of accurately knowing the full maintenance history of the car...thus you as the consumer must take a calculated risk on a major purchase such as this....again..I dont see this as belittling anyone, its simply a fact.
#201 of 721 is my 06 caddy cts 3.6l VVT with only 27kmi supposed to be shaking at idle?
Mar 18, 2011 (6:23 pm)
C'mon really... isn't this car supposed to be near new? with only 27k
Is the engine's rough idle normal?
Why are the wheel bearings shot already? Why are the rear struts/shock or whatever is supposed to ride some what decent feels like a flinstone mobile.
My neighbor had all new wheel bearings installed at 27k also,
is this just a kwinky dink? Is it a greaseless bearing thing? GMs invention?
What... what ... this freeggin car was $44k in 06 I paid 18.4 just 3 months ago
So far its already been in the shop 3 times for a total of $3900 bumper to bumper
Oh did I mention it took two different times at one Crest(Crust)Caddy dealer (Milwaukee, Wi) to tell me all is fine when actually a loose caliper was making all that noise that they couldn't hear and said all is fine. yea right
Well finally at Metropoitan Cad. same city was totally pro and went head to toe on this car and fixed it all. What did I get myself into? And what is next?
It does look very nice though. Thank you for listening and thank you for this great site. I hope to learn more about this GM Caddy thing.
Is it time to dump it?
#202 of 721 Re: My 2005 Cadillac engine just blew/siezed [carlamoreno]
Mar 24, 2011 (10:54 am)
Can you update me on your progress with Customer Assistance?
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