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#86 of 110
2005 Pilot Brakes by kevman3
Mar 09, 2009 (3:25 am)
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Anyone ever change the brake pads on an 05 Pilot? 40K on the car, needs brakes. Not in the mood to get ripped off by the dealer right now. Is it easy? Anyone have a video demonstration to share?
 
Thanks....
#87 of 110
Re: Pilot Touring Michelin "run flats" [CalifLookieLoo] by kipk
Mar 09, 2009 (4:14 am)
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Replying to: CalifLookieLoo (Mar 08, 2009 1:38 pm)

FWIW: I have "heard" of some kind of special problem with the mounting or balancing of "Run Flat" tires, but don't know what it is. Check with you local tire dealers as well as the Honda service department, concerning the tires.
 
Seems to me, the 4WD Pilots are rated to tow more than the 2WD models. If they are rated higher, it stands to reason they would be better able to handle towing your trailer, with less strain on the Pilot drive train.
 
While the 4wd cost more in the beginning, they will bring more at trade-in or resale time.
 
There may be times when you are required to navigate "Loose" road surfaces, such as sand, mud, snow, and so forth. The 2WD models will likely handle it with the traction control kicking in, under normal conditions. However, there are times, Especially when towing, that extra traction may be needed. Then the 4WD can be very helpful. We never know where we are going to be when, or if, 4wd is needed. Just because we live in one type of terrain/climate doesn't mean we won't travel to another.
 
Our 4WD '03 Pilot gets the same or better mileage as being reported on the 2wd models. I just can't come up with a good reason to not get 4wd in a vehicle of this type.
 
One last thing. Even though the 09 pilots have the integrated trailer hitch, there is NO WIRING PLUG. You will have to pay extra to get the wiring plug installed.
Is that stupid or what? Be sure it is a 7 pin connector so you can tow trailers with electric brakes if necessary.
 
But I've been around a while and tend to error on the side of caution. Would rather have it and not need it, than the other way.
 
Kip
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Re: Pilot Touring Michelin "run flats" [kipk] by CalifLookieLoo
Mar 09, 2009 (1:28 pm)
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Replying to: kipk (Mar 09, 2009 4:14 am)

Thank you, kipk
 
I called CostCo Tire Center, and was told that the problem with the "PAX" Michelin Run Flats that Honda uses on the Pilot Touring and the Odyssey is that ONLY a Honda Certified tech can change the tire if it goes flat! The new tire is already placed in a rim and has to be bought that way.
 
I'm glad you told me that I would need a WIRING PLUG with a SEVEN pin connector!
Can't believe Honda would "cheap out" on that; especially, on a vehicle with a $40,000 MSRP (Honda, are you listening?)
 
I live on a dirt/gravel road (I pour bags of gravel in the ruts when they get too deep)
and feel like the traction of an AWD would help me out if I should need to haul the horses and llamas in an emergency situation (like one of California's fire seasons),
so I plan to stick to the AWD..........like you, I'd rather err on the side of caution! Thank you for your input!
#89 of 110
Tire question by vin14
Mar 17, 2009 (10:18 am)
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Replaced my Integritys after 60K miles on my Pilot (the Duelers on my CR-v only got 32k) with the General Grabber HTS. Went one size larger (235 vs. 225 because of availability)
 
Problem is the Pilot seems to drag more and gas mileage has dropped about 20%. Tires are inflated to 35 and after 60k, my feel for mileage is pretty good. A highway trip would net me 20-21 mpg, now I'm at 16-17, local driving is down to 13.
 
All fluids have been replaced, new air cleaner, etc.
 
Is the drop off because of the brand change in tires or is the larger size screwing things up?
 
I know the one size up should reflect a slight difference.
 
Should I get these tires changed to the factory size?
#90 of 110
Re: Tire question [vin14] by bdyment
Mar 18, 2009 (4:13 am)
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Replying to: vin14 (Mar 17, 2009 10:18 am)

There is no way an increase of one tire size 225 to 235 will account for your recent considerable loss in mpg. It may affect the mileage a small amount but not nearly to the degree your are mentioning. Something else must be wrong other than tires.
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Re: Tire question [bdyment] by jensad
Mar 18, 2009 (10:54 am)
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Replying to: bdyment (Mar 18, 2009 4:13 am)

Increase of one larger tire size probably would alter your speedometer reading at various speeds. I.e. increase =s about five miles per hour change. Translates into at 65 mph with larger size is really increasing your actual speed to about 69/70 mph. Now can it affect your mpg? I don't know but it seems it could,
 
Good luck to all and stay safe.
 
jensad
#92 of 110
Tire Replacement by odie6l
Jul 30, 2009 (1:52 pm)
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Well it has come time to replace the tires on "The Beast" and I have settled on 2 sets. I want others opinions on the tires I am comparing.
 
1st, both sets are the standard size for the 2006 Pilot EX (235 / 70 R16).
2nd, I wanted to keep total cost under $180 per tire.
3rd, I am not dealing with Tirerack.com, heard way to many bad things about them. I'm going straight to the Tire Manufacturers dealer.
 
1st tire - Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor
2nd tire - Yokohama Geolander A/T-S
 
Compare:
Goodyear - 50k Treadlife, Kevlar layer, strong on & off capable, dual grove system, rim protection bead system.
 
Yokohama - 40k treadlife, reinforced sidewall for better onroad handling, quad grove system for all weather / all terrain.
 
Price (through tire dealers):
Goodyear - $175 per tire. Includes lifetime Roadhazard warrenty, every 6k mile rebalance & rotation, & every 18k 4 wheel alignment at no charge.
 
Yokohama - $120 per tire. Includes every 5k rebalance & rotation.
 
Odie
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#93 of 110
Re: Tire question [jensad] by justaveragejoe
Aug 03, 2009 (12:07 pm)
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Replying to: jensad (Mar 18, 2009 10:54 am)

Not only does the speedo reading decrease, the odometer also reads less. You are really driving farther than the odomoter says. The car will sit a little higher, which will catch a little more wind and cause more drag.
#94 of 110
Goodyear Fortera Tire Pressure by nasgroup
Aug 30, 2009 (3:03 pm)
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Hey All,
 
I always look at the max tire pressure on the sidewall of the tire to determine my desired air pressure. The GoodYear Fortera tires have a max of 50 PSI. For vehicle tires that is a big number, as they are normally in the max range of mid to upper 30's. With a 50 psi max, I would inflate to about 45 psi, as that will help with tire longevity.
 
The owners manual recommends 32 psi but doesn't specify a specific brand of tire, just the tire size. Does anyone have a different tire than the Fortera, and what is the max psi on the sidewall.
 
I feel that 32psi is too low for a tire with a max PSI of 50..so what are you folks setting your tires to???
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Pay attention to Mfg recomendations by kipk
Aug 30, 2009 (4:06 pm)
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Replying to: nasgroup (Aug 30, 2009 3:03 pm)

The mfg recommended pressure is there to give the best ride, mileage and longevity of the tire, depending on the weight of the vehicle.
 
A heavier vehicle might call for more tire pressure. In the case of a tire with 50# max on the sidewall simply means the tire should not be used on a vehicle that requires more than 50# and don't inflate to more than 50#..
 
Over inflating a tire for the vehicles weight will increase mileage a bit. HOWEVER the reason for this increase is that there is less tire tread on the road to cause resistance to rolling. The Pilot, in this case, will be riding on the center of the tire's treads, and those treads will wear faster that the outer treads. Usable tire will wear out much faster. Less tread on the road can also result in longer stopping distances as well as less tread on the road to hold the car tracking in emergency maneuvers. Less traction!! What is saved in fuel will be spent many times over in early tire replacement, ride and safety.
 
Keep in mind that just a few inches difference in stopping can make the difference in hitting something or barely missing it.
 
Under inflated tires result in the outer tread wearing quicker than the middle tread, poorer mileage due to excessive rolling resistance, and sidewalls squashing (rolling over) easier on emergency maneuvers.
 
Automotive manufactures pay folks a heap of money to develop the best tire pressure for the various vehicles. A Pilot may come with 1 of several makes of tires, yet the recommended pressure is probably the same.
 
My 03 Pilot has Goodyear Integra tires and the recommended pressure is 32# as my car and yours weight about the same.
 
You trusted them to build a reliable car. So trust them to know the best pressure for the tires they put on it. The KEY is to know if your tire gauge is accurate.
 
I get near 26 MPG on the highway with 2 aboard at at 65 miles per hour. The car has near 40K miles on the clock, and the tire tread is at about half.
 
I recently did the "Chalk" test again, and the result showed 34# best for my tires and my car, using the gauge I keep in it, and use on that car only. Another tire gauge, I keep in the CR-V, shows the Pilot tires at 32 pounds. I don't know which gauge is correct, but I use just the Pilot's gauge and things seems to work out well at 34# . The CR-V's gauge is used exclusive for the CR-V. The key is to have the entire tread exerting the same pressure on the road. That way the tires wear evenly, last longer, ride the best, and handle as they should.
 
(Chalk test can be viewed on post 61.)
 
Kip.

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