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Nissan Quest 2004+ Brakes by cirruss
Dec 20, 2006 (9:38 pm)
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On my 2004 Quest SL, I just replaced the front rotors and pads, and the rear pads. The work was done at 33k miles. My van had the steering pulsating problem during braking for the last couple years. I never had the dealer turn the rotors because think the problem will just come back (especially after reading other owners experience).
 
I ended up getting the Frozen rotors for the front and Raybestos QS ceramic pads for all fours. With the new rotors, the pulsating problem is no longer there. I have put only 1k on it so far, so I will let you guys know how it is as I accumulate more miles. One thing that surprised me the most was the rear pads did wear down much more than the front. The rear had less than 1/8" on it and the warning tabs broke off. The front had a little over 1/4" on them. Got it done just in time.
 
I was wondering if other Quest owners had to do a brake job at around 33k or maybe earlier than that.
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Re: Nissan Quest 2004+ Brakes [cirruss] by dtownfb
Dec 29, 2006 (8:57 pm)
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Replying to: cirruss (Dec 20, 2006 9:38 pm)

I think most owners of 2004 Quests had brakes replaced before 40k miles. Most had the rotors replaced as well.
 
The Quest has electroic brake distributin (EBD). During hard braking, the computer applies the forces over each brake to avoid the nose dive effect and allows the van to stop shorter. This also means that your rear brakes are working more than in a car without EBD. So the rear brakes will wear quicker than you are used to. Also the rear rotors in the 2004 are smaller than the 2005.
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Re: Nissan Quest 2004+ Brakes [dtownfb] by plashenick
Dec 30, 2006 (7:47 am)
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Replying to: dtownfb (Dec 29, 2006 8:57 pm)

I had mine done around 35k. Nissan replaced the rotors at their expense (no cost for us!). They said that it went to fast
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Re: Nissan Quest 2004+ Brakes [cirruss] by famof3kids
Dec 31, 2006 (9:05 am)
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Replying to: cirruss (Dec 20, 2006 9:38 pm)

We have almost 39k on our 2004 Quest SE. We have not replaced the brakes yet, but, at the last service, the dealer said that the rear pads were almost ready for replacement. We have had no brake problems.
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Re: Nissan Quest 2004+ Brakes [famof3kids] by cirruss
Dec 31, 2006 (5:53 pm)
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If you able to get 39k on the first set of pads for the 04 model, I think that is very good. I think if our van wasn't so heavy, the brakes would probably last much longer.
 
As for dtownfb's situation...you have a very nice dealer and you should stick with them.
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Constant brake problems by garycox
Mar 07, 2007 (7:04 am)
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I've posted messages before which are now in the read only quest forum...
 
I'm going to post again with an update and see if anyone has any ideas...
 
I bought brand new a 2004 Nissan Quest. At just over 6,000 miles I had to have the rotors machined due to steering wheel shake. It went fine until 29,000 miles when it started again and I had to have the rotors machined (turned) and brake pads replaced. Since that 29,000 miles it has been a constant repeat of warped rotors.
 
Every 5,000 - 8,000 miles I start having steering wheel shake again and the rotors must be turned. At about 6,000 miles ago I had the front rotors replaced and at about 4,500 the problem started again where I just now had it repaired again.
 
The vehicle has 48,000 miles on it. In all fairness I must say the dealer and Nissan has eaten some costs in repairs but the problem is that the problem keeps coming back.
 
They even flew an engineer down this last time and he looked at the vehicle. He checked all aspects of the brakes and everything was within specifications and working correctly except the rotors had to be machined again.
 
He was unable to explain why the rotors keep needing to be machined.
 
My thoughts are if everything in the brake system is at factory specifications as verified by a Nissan Engineer then it must be a design problem? They claim they have no history of this being a problem in the 2004 quest and that it meets government standards for safety and so on.
 
I'm not a mechanic but it seems to me for the rotors to warp and to need machining it must be heat causing the rotors to warp. The only thing that can cause heat is for the pads to be pushing on the rotors such as while braking. Since the pads have been verified as running as they should and not draging so the only time heat can be generated is when I brake. I drive with just one foot, not both and I have even tried driving with the thought in mind not to use the brakes. I also assume that it is not just the heat but the cooling back down of the brakes is when they begin to warp? So I do not even wash the van when I've been driving it, only when it cools down although going through a rain storm is a different story...
 
It's been suggested non Nissan pads and rotors as a possible solution but that's not a manufacturer solution which I've been pushing for.
 
If only a few other 2004 quests are having this problem then perhaps I have a lemon although all of the braking system is within specifications so I wouldn't think so based on that.
 
So it still points to a design problem from the information that I have but why are not more people complaining or are people just living with steering wheel shake? How did I go from 6,000 miles to 29,000 and now I can't go hardly 6 or 7,000 miles before a problem?
 
It's been suggested the brakes on the 2004 quest are undersize for the vehicle... Did they improve that for the 2007 Quest?
 
Any ideas or comments are welcome... Thanks... Gary
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Re: Constant brake problems [garycox] by perna
Mar 07, 2007 (10:24 am)
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Replying to: garycox (Mar 07, 2007 7:04 am)

It's been suggested the brakes on the 2004 quest are undersize for the vehicle... Did they improve that for the 2007 Quest?
 
Actually, yes. My folks traded in an '04 on an '07, and the rotors are substantially larger.
 
If you want to keep your '04, I would buy some slotted Brembo rotors and new pads all around, then call it a day. Minivans are notorious brake eaters.
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Re: Constant brake problems [perna] by tjshan
Mar 07, 2007 (11:17 am)
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Replying to: perna (Mar 07, 2007 10:24 am)

WE have a 2006 with about 10K miles on it now. We did have the brake shake at the first service, and the dealer did replace the rotors (though not the pads interestingly enough) however I have to say we kind of expected it. I had heard brakes were a problem with this van...it is large and heavy and I frankly find the braking to be odd. when you first step on the brake, it does not seem to slow at the rate you would expect, apply more pressure (now you are getting close to needing to anyway) and it seems to slow too quickly. I have driven many vehicles through the years, sports cars to trucks...I just can not get used to the braking on this van.
 
Anyway...to answer your question, yes I think the brakes are probably undersized for the application. Sure they will stop the van...but they wont last while doing it. Is it a design flaw...more like a compromise. The stock brakes on my Porsche are super...but expensive and pads wear quickly...Is it a design flaw?
 
Braking is such a subjective thing, if the engineer drove your car for 8K miles would he warp the rotors? possibly not...maybe it does have something to do with your driving style. I have to say I am suprized Nissan has stood by you this long , a 2004 I would have thought they would try to bug off of.
 
I had not heard the 2007's brakes were larger. Are they retrofittable?
 
Please keep us appraised of how it turns out.
 
Tom
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Re: Constant brake problems [garycox] by dtownfb
Mar 07, 2007 (12:06 pm)
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Replying to: garycox (Mar 07, 2007 7:04 am)

I've been following your brake plight. I think I have mentioned to you that my mechanic (independent) replaced my rear rotors with Wagner rotors. That was 12,000 miles ago and no problems since. Definitely not Brembo but good quality rotors. If you are handy, you can order rotors online and install them yourself or have an independent shop do it for you. I jsut hate to see you suffering like this. Nissan can't put on anything except OEM. Maybe one of the mechanics could do you a favor.....
 
Good luck and keep us informed.
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Re: Constant brake problems [tjshan] by garycox
Mar 07, 2007 (12:30 pm)
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Replying to: tjshan (Mar 07, 2007 11:17 am)

I've thought about my driving style and have tried to modify it. Since the last brake job where the front rotors were replaced I actually tried not to use the brakes as often as possible. It didn't seem to do a lot of good.
 
The engineer who looked at it couldn't offer an explanation as to why they warp as he said the van was within factory specifications except for them being warped.
 
Thanks... Gary

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