Is Honda the best motor company in the world? - READ ONLY

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#327 of 346 Re: Honda/Acura is Currently Stagnate [lemko] by smarty666

May 06, 2010 (7:23 am)

Replying to: lemko (May 06, 2010 6:15 am)
You know lemko, you and I usually don't agree on many things, especially when it comes to GM, but on Acura we are on complete agreement. The snow plow shield grill just is such a turn off. I even waited, because I know pictures on the internet never show the true picture as being in person does but even after seeing it in person several times I just couldn't warm up to it.
 
In regards to the RL, it doesn't bother me as much that it lacks the V8 but I do agree with you on this as well, I think it would be nice for Acura to offer it and they are missing a huge market segment that the 5, E, A6, and M fill with their V8 options.

#328 of 346 Having said that by andres3

May 06, 2010 (8:54 pm)

The Honda Accord Coupe BLEW AWAY the Nissan Altima Coupe in the last Comparo I read on Edmunds I believe. It wasn't even close.
 
They have a winner there, but it's slightly overpriced, way overweight, and somewhat oversized. Also, coupes aren't that popular.

#329 of 346 Re: Having said that [andres3] by car_love

May 12, 2010 (2:40 pm)

Replying to: andres3 (May 06, 2010 8:54 pm)
I test drove the Honda Accord V6 Coupe and liked it a lot, real tame ride but had good power and comfort, but like everyone else, I couldn't agree with the prices when there's much better deals at Ford, Nissan and Toyota for cars with more and better features. As you can tell, I decided NOT to buy my Accord lease nor get another Honda in I got a Nissan 350z used instead with low miles as they come off lease. this year.
 
Honda makes the best 4 cylinder engines.
Nissan makes one of the best 6 cylinder engines.
Ford makes a great V8 engine.

#330 of 346 Re: All manufacturers have their pros and cons. Honda is good [steve_] by car_love

May 12, 2010 (2:46 pm)

Replying to: steve_ (Apr 13, 2010 11:17 pm)
i heard the transmissions are finicky on the V6s more so than reported from 4 cylinder engines. I only had a slave cylinder go out on my Honda, only problem I ever had really.
 
Finally took a ride in a Fit and an Insight, I was impressed by the smooth Honda feel and ride... no impressed by the ack of power and plain jane interiors. Still if 35mpg is what one is trying to average, they are good choices but being near civic and corolla prices and gas mileage is competitive, it's tough to pay up for a Fit or Insight.

#331 of 346 losing its legendary edge? by steve_ HOST

May 26, 2010 (11:43 am)

"Edmunds.com analyst Ivan Dury says sales Honda, so far, has averted a dramatically precipitous sales slide. Still, consumer shopping consideration for Honda has been down in the first quarter this year at a time when one would expect it to be up in light of rival Toyota's troubles. "Honda's situation has the ingredients for a potentially tragic sales slide. If Honda keeps piling on incentives and sales remain flat or slip, we'll have another story on our hands."
 
What's Wrong At Honda? Maybe Everything (AutoObserver)
 

#332 of 346 Re: losing its legendary edge? [steve_] by lemko

May 28, 2010 (5:49 am)

Replying to: steve_ (May 26, 2010 11:43 am)
Interesting article. I certainly agree with his assessment on styling. The Acura brand suffers on account of that ugly chrome beak on the front of its cars and a general styling theme that looks like a cross between Pokemon and Transformers. The Crosstour is the ugliest vehicle to come from Honda since the original Element. I don't know why Honda copied the dorky styling of the Prius for the Insight. I'd have rather they 'd have kept it like a Civic Hybrid. I kind of liked the original Insight though it's two-seater configuration was impractical. That car reminded me of a bullet.
 
You'd think Honda would be doing well at the expense of a floundering Toyota, but it seems Hyundai is the major beneficiary of Toyota's trouble.

#333 of 346 Re: losing its legendary edge? [lemko] by nippononly

Jun 01, 2010 (7:36 am)

Replying to: lemko (May 28, 2010 5:49 am)
Hyundai is in the right place at the right time to benefit from Toyota's problems - lots of new highly-acclaimed product, the first automaker to put DI in its mainstream sedans, pretty much the best warranty in the industry, and the lowest price relative to feature content.
 
Compared to this, Honda has what? The CrossTour? LOL!

#334 of 346 Re: losing its legendary edge? [nippononly] by berri

Jun 01, 2010 (5:31 pm)

Replying to: nippononly (Jun 01, 2010 7:36 am)
I think Honda does have styling problems. The CRV is ungainly, the Accord is dull and the Civic is goofy inside and out. But there are other issues as well. Honda needs to make its vehicles quieter. Loudness connotes cheapness. We just got a Chevy Traverse as a rental and couldn't believe how much quieter and smoother it was compared to our Ody, and it didn't drive and handle all that different either really despite all the talk about the Honda experience. Also, there are too many blogs about expensive premature failures in Honda's lately like A/C, Trannies and oil consumption. These are not things that add to Honda's attractiveness. Our Ody has been a decent car so far except for all the noises, but our CRV certainly hasn't provided this legendary Honda experience people talk about. We will be replacing both of them in the next few years and right now we're not inclined to stick with Honda and in our opinion their inflated reputation and pricing. So I agree that Honda needs to stop resting on its laurels and get to work improving their product.

#335 of 346 7th consecutive sales increase by anythngbutgm

Jun 02, 2010 (10:46 am)

American Honda Reports May Sales Increase of 19.1 percent
 
 

#336 of 346 Re: 7th consecutive sales increase [anythngbutgm] by nippononly

Jun 03, 2010 (7:36 am)

Replying to: anythngbutgm (Jun 02, 2010 10:46 am)
Finally their month-over-month sales increase matches that of the overall market, but they are still behind YTD: 13% increase YTD for Honda, 17% for the overall market.
 
Who is eating their lunch? Ford and Nissan, that's who. And to a lesser extent VW and Hyundai (those are smaller companies, with much smaller U.S. sales in the case of VW), whose sales are also up more than the overall market, and quite a bit more than Honda.

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