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Is Honda the best motor company in the world?

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Honda engines by smalltown
May 23, 2009 (12:48 pm)
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All 33 cars in the Indianapolis 500 will be using Honda engines!
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Re: Honda engines [smalltown] by steve_ HOST
May 23, 2009 (12:54 pm)
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Replying to: smalltown (May 23, 2009 12:48 pm)

It's not like the drivers have a choice though is it? I think Honda has an exclusive tie-in with the IRL to be the sole engine supplier through 2013.
 
Here's the Honda Indy V8 page:
 
Honda Racing
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Re: Honda engines [steve_] by gagrice
May 23, 2009 (5:02 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (May 23, 2009 12:54 pm)

Does Honda sell their V8 for any other purpose? I lost interest in the Indy 500 in 1969 when they screwed over Parnelli Jones and the turbine car. It would probably beat anything running today. Kind of like the government. You want to get rid of something you don't like you regulate it our of existence.
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Re: Honda engines [steve_] by xrunner2
May 26, 2009 (5:04 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (May 23, 2009 12:54 pm)

It's not like the drivers have a choice though is it? I think Honda has an exclusive tie-in with the IRL to be the sole engine supplier through 2013.
  
Here's the Honda Indy V8 page:
 
Honda link says that they will supply engines to IRL through 2010.
 
Link also mentioned reliability of Honda engines.
 
When IRL was first formed in 90's to compete against CART, believe that Oldsmobile Aurora and Nissan engines were used. These were NOT reliable. Don't know which was better/worse - Olds or Nissan.
 
A car magazine (can't recall which) had an article recently that said that IRL is considering changing the engine spec for the series and that "four" cylinder was a possibility. If they go to 4, and Honda wants to be part of, they will rule again with their superior engineering.
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Re: Honda engines [xrunner2] by gagrice
May 26, 2009 (5:44 am)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (May 26, 2009 5:04 am)

I would look for diesel to dominate if given the chance. We know how repressive the racing world can be. They do not like change to compete with the good old boys club. Audi is dominating the world of IMSA. Of course they will run into the same kind of ignorance that has controlled Indy car racing the last 40 years.
 
The Audi R10 TDI — the world’s first Le Mans diesel race car — has been doing so well that new regulations have been put in place to curb its success. The American Le Mans Series has decided to allow the competing gas-powered LM P1 Lolas to drop 143 pounds of weight to make for a tighter race. The Lolas will also be granted a five-litre larger fuel tank. Audi says its engineers have calculated with computer simulation that 22 pounds at the upcoming Road America is worth at least two-tenths-of-a-second per lap. Audi said it is “deeply disappointed about the random decisions of the IMSA organization.” Nonetheless, Audi is hopefully it can continue its winning streak this weekend with the Road America race.
 
Racing is supposed to be about innovation. I find the whole business a big joke. Honda is just the darling of the moment. Honda builds decent engines. No way the best in the World. BEST is a moving target if innovation is allowed.
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"Judge" Ito by steve_ HOST
Oct 27, 2009 (2:20 pm)
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There's a new chief at Honda:
 
New Honda President Lays Out a Few Goals (Straightline)
 
And Honda doesn't think gas is going to get any cheaper.
 
Honda Retooling Product Plan to Reduce Weight, Improve MPG
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Re: "Judge" Ito [steve_] by nippononly
Oct 27, 2009 (4:27 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Oct 27, 2009 2:20 pm)

I found it very interesting that they changed the design of the new Civic mid-stream in its development, to be same-size or smaller, instead of larger as it was going to be. Of course, one of the main reasons for that about-face was weight reduction.
 
It's about time automakers took weight reduction seriously.
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Re: "Judge" Ito [nippononly] by fezo
Oct 27, 2009 (4:55 pm)
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Replying to: nippononly (Oct 27, 2009 4:27 pm)

Do they plan on de-uglifying the dashboard?
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Re: "Judge" Ito [fezo] by nippononly
Oct 28, 2009 (12:04 pm)
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Replying to: fezo (Oct 27, 2009 4:55 pm)

I don't think they are that far along yet. They are still working on the platform modifications.

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