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#75 of 204 intermittent starting problems with Dodge Dakota
Dec 18, 2008 (8:04 pm)
I have a 2000 Dodge Dakota with 55,000 miles. I am the original owner and there have been no prior issues with this vehicle.
Over the last summer, I experienced an intermittent rough spot during acceleration. I installed new tune-up parts and ran some injector cleaner through the fuel and that seemed to clear things up, however about 6 weeks after the new parts were installed, the truck was slow to start one evening after being parkedand unused for 2 weeks. The truck eventually started and appeared to run fine, but 10 miles down the road it stalled (while being operated at 50 mph) and refused to start.
The truck was towed to a repair shop, where they said I had a bad battery and installed a new one. I picked the truck up the next day and it again appeared to run fine. The next time I drove it (3 days later), it again stalled about 10 miles out and while being operated at 50 mph.
The mechanic had the truck for about a week and it started fine for him, then one day after he put about 25 miles on it, the tuck stalled.
This time the mechanic replaced my fuel pump and cleaned the injectors. When I picked up the truck it ran like new, but refused to start the next day. I waited a day and tried again, still wouldn't start and it was towed into the shop - again.
The mechanic has had it for a week and when I called him today, he said the truck started just fine for him. Any ideas on what could be causing this? I am the original owner and this truck has been well maintained.
#76 of 204 Re: intermittent starting problems with Dodge Dakota [tmaloney]
Dec 19, 2008 (8:23 am)
Well, the mechanic should've been able to retrieve a trouble code(s) from the PCM. Has he mentioned it to you and what they were?
There are two possibilities that come to mind, especially on your vintage Dakota: A faulty ASD Relay or Fuel Pump Relay. If either relay is intermittent or there are bad connections in either circuit, this symptom will be caused.
#77 of 204 Re: intermittent starting problems with Dodge Dakota [tmaloney]
Dec 21, 2008 (7:44 pm)
Thanks much for the info, I'll get with the mechanic tomorrow. They told me there were no error codes, so they were pretty certain it was the fuel pump, which proved only to be a big expense for me. Such is life on a small Alaskan island.
#78 of 204 Re: intermittent starting problems with Dodge Dakota [tmaloney]
Dec 26, 2008 (4:47 pm)
Hello again Dusty,
I spoke with my mechanic and he advised the relays have already been replaced and were among the fist things he did. He asked that I bring the car home and if/when it breaks down again, call him to the scene so he can diagnose the problem as it occurrs.
Sounded good to me, so I brought the car home and used it for a few days. There were moments when the truck started to lose power, just as before, but this time instead of putting my foot down, I backed off the gas pedal and the engine smoothed right out.
Well, I went out to use it today, but the truck fails to start again. The engine turns over just fine, it simply never starts. The mechanic is off for the holiday weekend, so I can't reach him until Monday (this is Friday afternoon).
So, to recap; the battery, fuel pump, ASD and fuel pump relays have all been replaced. Only a few months ago the plugs, wires, air filter, cap & rotor were replaced. When put on a computer, no error codes are found and this vehicle desplays an annoying tendency toward "Tecnician Proximity Syndrome". There is an occassional hesitation under acceleration (maybe once every 12 - 15 miles) and the engine occassionally refuses to start. We are all stumped here. Any ideas are greatly appreciated!
#79 of 204 Re: intermittent starting problems with Dodge Dakota [tmaloney]
Dec 27, 2008 (1:32 pm)
At this point my only suggestion is to start with basic troubleshooting and first determine whether its an electrical problem or a fuel delivery problem. This will require taking measurements.
My apologies, but I forgot the year of your truck, but if you've got plug wires you either have a 3.9 or 318 motor. That means you have a Crankshaft Position Sensor and a Hall Effect Pickup Sensor in the distributor, both or which are candidates (depending on the year, the Crankshaft Position Sensor is a strong suspect). But I hate to make these suggestions because it may only encourage more shotgunning and that usually proves to make a situation much more frustrating and expensive.
Of course, a problem like this is difficult to resolve because its intermittent, even for the most capable technician. You are at least fortunate at the moment because its in the failure mode. Now's the time to make some forensic observations and get some readings. In lieu of have a service manual or good diagnostic equipment, I would start looking at electrical wiring, especially connectors. These are often the source of intermittent problems on Dodge trucks.
A friend of mine was conveying a similar problem to me on a Nissan Frontier just a couple of months ago. That problem turned out to be an intermittent ground connection on the body because a ground strap had just about corroded away (not entirely, though).
Jan 11, 2009 (11:07 am)
The problem has finally been resolved - water in the fuel tank! The temps dropped here (I live on an island in Alaska) and the water froze. The mechanic drew about 2 cups of water and a large chunk of ice out of the system, then ran 2 bottles of heat through the tank and all appears well now. I've had the truck back for over a week and have used it daily with no problems, despite single digit temperatures. I will be adding a can of heat with every new tank of gas for a while. Thanks again for all your help with this.
#81 of 204 Re: starting problems [jandavg]
Jan 25, 2009 (8:38 pm)
I had the same problem w/ my truck. I replaced a lot more before seeking help. Under the fuse box near the firewall on drivers side is a juckion of wires inside the harness there are 3 different color wires. Usually all 3 sets are corroded. Cut open harness, clean all 3 sets & either resolder or use wire nuts to secure. Then retape harness. when your done with this you need to check the pcm because those wires being corroded causes arking in the pcm & somtimes ruins it.
#82 of 204 Re: 92 dodge dakota [chanteupgrades]
Jan 25, 2009 (8:40 pm)
see message #81
#83 of 204 Re: starting problems [bmrjoyce]
Jan 26, 2009 (8:51 pm)
I ended up resolving my issue too.
It was the coil wire. But in the process I discovered I had the original battery in it still....7yrs old ! A bit overdue I would have to say.
Thanks for everyones help in pointing me in good directions to trouble shoot.
#84 of 204 Starting problem
Feb 19, 2009 (4:04 pm)
I have a 97 D. Dakota low mileage(less than 60,000) when starting up it is completely dead until I bump the gear shift around a little, then it starts right up. It would only do it once in a while, then when cold weather hit it does it just about daily.AUTOMATIC.
Strange but it stared happening after I had fluid changed last year. Any ideas???