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#66 of 204 Re: Starting Problems when Cold [ronslakie1]
Nov 25, 2008 (7:00 pm)
I had a 2002 Dodge Dakota 4.7L and I had exactly the same problem. This is not electrical problem!!! Do not touch it. I replaced fuel pump and everything went back to normal. I believe that there is not enough pressure build up for the first start in old pump. New fuel pump will solve that problem. It is located on top of fuel tank. This is a well known defect on these vehicles as I found out later. Good luck.
#67 of 204 Starting Problems When Cold
Nov 26, 2008 (4:55 am)
Thanks for your replies. To answer Dusty - on the first start of the day I will have to crank it for 6 to 8 seconds before it starts. I have never shut it down right away and tried starting it again but for the rest of that day, even after siting for several hours there will be no problem starting it. It is just the initial start after sitting overnight. I have tried turning the ignition to the on position for about 10 seconds to get the fuel pump started without cranking it but that has not made any difference.
#68 of 204 Re: Starting Problems When Cold [ronslakie1]
Nov 26, 2008 (7:39 pm)
Exactly! You are not alone. I had the same problem. It makes no difference how long you wait with ignition on. You just need to crank it for few times in the morning and replace fuel pump when you get tired of it. I drove like that for about 2 years before I decided to fix it. Cheapest pumps are on ebay, buy it only new. Since this is a common problem on these pumps. Good luck.
#69 of 204 Re: Starting Problems When Cold [ronslakie1]
Nov 27, 2008 (9:12 am)
Well, the suggestion that this could be a fuel pump problem is a possibility, although in my experience this is not a common problem.
When I've seen Dakota pumps fail they are not often intermittent like this. The one fuel pump related issue that I'm familiar with that matches your symptom, was not the a pump failure, but a clogged inlet filter on the pump. This was not discovered until after disassembly and the new pump was installed. As was told to me, when the pump was shaken all kinds of "crap" fell out. What is a more likely failure scenario, in my opinion, is a faulty Fuel Pressure Regulator, however, it is an integral part of the pump anyway.
That aside for the moment, what I have seen on older (2000-2003) Dakotas (and a couple of RAMs, too) are intermittent Auto Shut Down (ASD) Relays. The ASD Relay prevents power to the coils and fuel injectors in the event of a rollover.
The older relays were manufactured by Emrod and are usually dark red in color, the newer ones are black and made by Tyco. The part number is 56049018-AA. Look at the last two alpha characters on the relay part number. Chrysler uses these characters to denote a change to the part. In my 2003 these are marked "AB," meaning the part has been revised from the original.
Since the cost of this part is relatively inexpensive compared to a fuel pump, I would suggest looking at this as a possible suspect. The ASD Relay can be switched with another in the Power Distribution Center box as a trial. There is also a Fuel Pump Relay in the PDC that could cause the same problem. Also, inspect the relay pins for signs of corrosion.
Of course, there are other things that could cause this problem, like an intermittent Crankshaft or Camshaft Sensor.
#70 of 204 Starting Problems When Cold
Nov 29, 2008 (3:32 am)
Dusty - Thanks for your response. This does seem to be intermittent since right now I am not having any problems. I have filed your post and if it acts up again I'll check further.
#71 of 204 Re: Help!!!!! [sdisney]
Nov 29, 2008 (8:41 am)
Hi shannon,I have the same problem that your husband has.I have a1995 dodge dakota and my wife wants to kill me because all I do is try to get this truck running.I had replace the same parts your husband did.I did get it running once by hot wiring the fuel pump relay and auto shut relay under the hood.It ran for about a week then quiet.My check engine light does not come on when I turn key on so I can't read any codes If your husband gets any advise could you please let me know Thanks George GLG921hotmail.com
#72 of 204 Problems starting
Nov 30, 2008 (7:34 pm)
Not every time, but if my 2001 Dakota sits more than about 7 hours, it is very hard to get it to start. Any thoughts.....
#73 of 204 Re: Problems starting [nyscrod]
Nov 30, 2008 (10:46 pm)
Your problem applies to later models of Dakota. Ask 2001 and up. 1995 models have other issues that are not related to 2001 or 2002 model. fuel pump is the answer.
#74 of 204 Re: Problems starting [tolikhl]
Dec 01, 2008 (7:27 am)
So you are saying that although I can hear the pump come on, there is an issue with it ?
If that is the problem, then thank you, it is getting very annoying....
#75 of 204 intermittent starting problems with Dodge Dakota
Dec 18, 2008 (8:04 pm)
I have a 2000 Dodge Dakota with 55,000 miles. I am the original owner and there have been no prior issues with this vehicle.
Over the last summer, I experienced an intermittent rough spot during acceleration. I installed new tune-up parts and ran some injector cleaner through the fuel and that seemed to clear things up, however about 6 weeks after the new parts were installed, the truck was slow to start one evening after being parkedand unused for 2 weeks. The truck eventually started and appeared to run fine, but 10 miles down the road it stalled (while being operated at 50 mph) and refused to start.
The truck was towed to a repair shop, where they said I had a bad battery and installed a new one. I picked the truck up the next day and it again appeared to run fine. The next time I drove it (3 days later), it again stalled about 10 miles out and while being operated at 50 mph.
The mechanic had the truck for about a week and it started fine for him, then one day after he put about 25 miles on it, the tuck stalled.
This time the mechanic replaced my fuel pump and cleaned the injectors. When I picked up the truck it ran like new, but refused to start the next day. I waited a day and tried again, still wouldn't start and it was towed into the shop - again.
The mechanic has had it for a week and when I called him today, he said the truck started just fine for him. Any ideas on what could be causing this? I am the original owner and this truck has been well maintained.