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Re: rusted crossmember/sub frame [steve_]
by jredder
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Dec 25, 2006 (8:22 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 25, 2006 7:40 am)
thanks, i added it to carspace album. take a look
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Re: rusted crossmember/sub frame [jredder]
by steve_ HOST
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Dec 25, 2006 (9:18 am)
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Replying to: jredder (Dec 25, 2006 8:22 am)
Yikes! You may want to check out the Complaints section at the NHTSA.
Here's the shortcut to your photo.
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Re: rusted crossmember/sub frame [steve_]
by jredder
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Dec 25, 2006 (9:58 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 25, 2006 9:18 am)
thank you so much! i submitted a complaint...thanks for your help.
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Re: rusted crossmember/sub frame [steve_]
by guitjoe
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Dec 26, 2006 (9:37 am)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 25, 2006 7:40 am)
Thanks Steve, Being a GM employee of 28+ years you think I would learn. I have went through all the channels with Customer Service with no satisfaction. My next move is to take your suggestion and contact the NHTSA. If nothing else this may prevent someone from being seriously injured. I have posted a picture in my album.">
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Re: rusted crossmember/sub frame [guitjoe]
by steve_ HOST
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Dec 27, 2006 (10:49 am)
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Replying to: guitjoe (Dec 26, 2006 9:37 am)
Your photo is even more dramatic! Pays to put a car up on a lift for inspection now and then I guess.
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Re: rusted crossmember/sub frame [steve_]
by arkainzeye
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Dec 27, 2006 (4:14 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 27, 2006 10:49 am)
i didnt realize what the part was until i just seen that photo. and the first thing that came out of my mouth was words i cant even type on here!! that is way worse that the explanations of it all..
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Re: rusted crossmember/sub frame [arkainzeye]
by steve_ HOST
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Dec 27, 2006 (4:18 pm)
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Replying to: arkainzeye (Dec 27, 2006 4:14 pm)
May as well just post it here too:
 See more Car Pictures at CarSpace.com
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Re: rusted crossmember/sub frame [steve_]
by guitjoe
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Dec 28, 2006 (8:41 pm)
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Replying to: steve_ (Dec 27, 2006 10:49 am)
You have got me there. I will download a couple of more photos so you can see how the rest of the car looks. I did look under the car and on the frame but never would have guessed this would have happened to a 2000 vehicle. I am also relatively confident the dealer was not aware of it either. He has a reputation for having good clean vehicles but I think this one got by him too.
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Re: rusted crossmember/sub frame [jredder]
by thewolfe
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Jan 04, 2007 (7:51 am)
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Replying to: jredder (Dec 16, 2006 4:35 pm)
What a coincidence, or is it? I also have a 2000 4DR/4WD Tracker with a rusted crossmember. Just had an estimate done at a local dealer yesterday and it will be $800 plus to repair. They also said that it is not a part that would have been covered under any warranties. I just got finished filing a complaint on the NHTSA web site and upon reading further on that site found where there is an investigation still open on this subject. Per the original investigation GM says that they have data showing that crossmembers that fail in this manner DO NOT cause a loss of vehicle control and is NOT a risk to motor vehicle safety. Well, I am just glad I was not travelling at 65-70 miles per hour on the highway when mine went! I guess at this point we just have to grin and bear it and spend the money to have them fixed, but if the engineering analysis that is still being conducted proves anything I will be going after a full refund of my money.
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Re: rusted crossmember/sub frame [thewolfe]
by jredder
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Jan 04, 2007 (8:02 am)
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Replying to: thewolfe (Jan 04, 2007 7:51 am)
thank you for that. i also filed a complaint with nhtsa a couple of weeks ago. i'm glad to know there is an investigation. i can't believe gm would suggest vehicle safty would not be an issue here. unbelievable! obviously they never drove a car with a rusted crossmember. then had to spend $900 to get it fixed when it wasn't even supposed to happen in the first place! if you find out anything more let me know please. thanks
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