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Where is Honda taking Acura?
1091 messages, Last post on Apr 01, 2013 at 7:55 AM
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#1085 of 1091 Re: Wishing for Updated 2003 TL [isellhondas] by car_dude
Feb 15, 2011 (12:16 pm)
Replying to: isellhondas (Feb 14, 2011 8:07 pm)
I guess design wise new Pilot was fine, but it just didn't feel right. I was excited when I got 08 Pilot, but when I drove the latest Pilot - it din't feel special. I also think that Pilot got to be too expensive for what it is, at least to lease the configuration we looked at. For a little bit extra in monthly payment you can get more upscale SUV.
#1086 of 1091 Re: direction [gs42] by xrunner2
Feb 16, 2011 (10:21 am)
Replying to: gs42 (Feb 14, 2011 9:00 am)
Clown face. That is a good description. Did they make the front end worse? We will hang onto our 04-08 gen TL. Runs fine, no trouble. Hopefully, Acura is working on a major rework of the TL to be ready in 2014.
Might get a hint if Honda/Acura have purged their inept stylists/designers when they replace the baroque-looking Accord.
- hpmctorque (Aug 25, 2011 2:37 am)
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#1087 of 1091 Re: direction [xrunner2] by hpmctorque
Aug 25, 2011 (2:37 am)
Replying to: xrunner2 (Feb 16, 2011 10:21 am)
The '12 Civic seems to have missed the bulls-eye by a rather wide margin. I'm sure it's a good car, but, in a market that's full of excellent compact cars, the Civic is no longer is special. It'll be interesting to see whether the next all-new (2013) Accord will devolve in a similar manner, or not. The '13 Accord will give us a hint of what to expect for the next generation TSX and TL, since they're based on the Accord.
- xrunner2 (Aug 25, 2011 7:58 am)
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#1088 of 1091 Re: direction [hpmctorque] by xrunner2
Aug 25, 2011 (7:58 am)
Replying to: hpmctorque (Aug 25, 2011 2:37 am)
New Civic will lose sales to Elantra and Focus. Acura division goofed up with current version of TL. Don't know the reason why they still make RL. And the Acura soopy roof car with rear hatch is a joke with car magazine writers.
#1090 of 1091 to the woodshed! by steve_ HOST
Dec 17, 2012 (3:33 pm)
"Dealership got caught fleecing an 83-year-old, and refused to unfleece him until American Honda Motor Co. stepped in."Swindle in Texas a lesson for car buyers (Detroit News)
Good for Honda. The Dealer Ratings here for them is pretty poor too (zip 76137). Gotta wonder how many other people have been ripped off.
#1091 of 1091 RLX by hpmctorque
Apr 01, 2013 (7:55 am)
The new RLX got a negative review in the Wall Street Journal. Among the comments, Dan Neil, the reviewer, said the RLX, Acura's flagship sedan, is little more than a larger, heavily contented Accord. While adapting Honda's FWD architecture to a car with E-Class and 5-Series fighting pretensions saved money, the result is a car that doesn't accomplish its mission, in the reviewer's opinion. Further, it's not even an effective competitor to the A-6 Quattro. Was Dan Neil too critical of the RLX?Incidentally, Consumers Reports rated the 2013 A-6 best-in-class; better than the E-Class or 5-Series.
It should be mentioned that the RLX will be available with AWD later this year. The AWD version will also have more power. I hope the WSJ tests that model too, to see whether that will make the RLX more competitive with its German rivals. And, let's not forget Cadillac, which just introduced an all-new, larger CTS to take on the Germans. Plus, Lexus, Infiniti and Jaguar aren't standing still.
There were many years when Acura cars were important players in the entry luxury car segment, and one level higher with the Legend and NSX, but in recent years Acura's successes have only been in SUVs and crossovers. Acura badly needs a successful sedan on the order of the '99-'03 and '04-'08 TLs. Maybe the '14 TLX will be that car. Or maybe there's still hope for the RLX, once the AWD version becomes available.
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