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Automotive News & Views Where is Honda taking Acura?
1045 messages, Last post on Nov 06, 2009 at 7:12 AM
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Replying to: anythngbutgm (Sep 08, 2009 8:33 am) 
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Sep 21, 2009 9:07 pm) I expect that they will, but I don't have much hope that future Acura models will appeal to people like us. For '09, the Hondas that appeal the most to me are the Civic and the Fit. Agree with all of the above. I liked Honda for reliability, sportiness, cars that were not too large. The accord is huge. The TL is now huge and ugly. The formerly great TSX is bigger and softer. I agree, the Civic still looks like an upscale car. But if you like agile, quality,and small, you either pay big $$ for BMW or you look at Mazda. The 3 (although uglier than last gen) is a quality small car that is sportier than the Civic and handles great. We own a Mazda 5 and for a micro-minivan .... well let's just say that the Mazda 5's steering and handling are far superior to my 2005 Acura Tl's. The TL has more power, but from an agility and handling perspective, the Mazda is much more fun to drive. VW might have been a consideration, but their reliability and cost-to-repair issues kill them. Plus their latest gen cars are more Japanese in style and IMHO are a lot less attractive than before.
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Replying to: nippononly (Sep 22, 2009 5:56 am) |
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Replying to: tlong (Sep 22, 2009 8:08 am) I agree with you on the 3-Series vs. Civic. The things I don't like about the 3-Series are the run-flat tires and the fact that it doesn't have an oil dipstick. I'm not familiar enough with Mazdas to comment, but your positive comments are consistent with what I've read. VWs drive very well, and their reliability has improved significantly. I'd cross shop one with a Mazda now.
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| my past leases were all Acura TL's ( 2007, 2004, 2000 & 1998). These cars were great and I really enjoyed them. My last 2007 TL was my favorite but when the lease ended I could bring myself to drive the 2009 TL. Ugly! I looked at the 2009 TSX but a lot of $$$ for a 4 cyl with a tiny back seat. I also checked out the 2009 Accord EX-L but it was missing some important options such as memory seat, xenon headlights and the car is not very attractive. I ended up leasing a 2009 Maxima because it had everything from my 2007 TL and I was able to lease it cheaply. The other car that impressed my was the Mazda 6 but it didn't have a good lease program. So long Acura...... | |
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Sep 22, 2009 9:02 am) Hopefully somebody from Honda/Acura is reading these posts and knows that former Honda lovers are concerned. Unless Honda is happy to move toward Toyota blandness - perhaps that's where the big bucks are. I'd like to see a next model Accord go DOWN in size, along with the TL. And get some more attractive styling.
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Replying to: tlong (Sep 22, 2009 10:03 am) Hallelujah, say it again! The last gen of both these models were as large as either should ever be. |
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Instead of discussing where Honda is taking Acura, I'd be interested in learning what direction other Edmunds posters think Acura should be taking. As I've mentioned several times in various discussions, I think Nissan/Infiniti has the answer in terms of platforms; that is, FWD architecture for Nissans and RWD for Infinitis. I'd like Honda/Acura to follow the same business model. V8 engines aren't that important to me, since Honda has the know-how to make outstanding 4s and 6s. I'd like to see Acura reintroduce the RSX, to compete with the 1-Series BMW. Your thoughts?
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now that I stumbled upon this thread. Right now, I have a 2005 Accord (4 cyl. stick), and 2000 TL. Also a 2005 Odyssey to round out the fleet. And most likely, none of them would be replaced by another Honda. Between the bloating, various quality issues (trannys) reported, and styling on the Accura (Accord too, but not as much), they really don't interest me any more. They also seem to be moving away from the days of lighter, agile, good visibility modest size cars. I actually really liked the 2004-2008 TLs Very nice looking, and the TSX was very nice too for a 4. I almost bought one in 2005, but got too good a deal on my EX-L Accord. My sister does have a new TSX, and it is a nice car (I drove one briefly), but certainly more "mature" than the 1st generation. And the TL is just an abomination (all visual, I never drove one). Plus, they have become a gadget and button fest, something that Hondas never used to be (tradtionally simple, clean, perfect ergonomics). I will say that I spent some time driving a new MDX, and while it is not very pretty (nose at least), it did drive nice. But it is quite the boat, and very heavy. So for me, Acura offers nothing of interest at this point. I too would be more likely to end up with a Mazda, BMW or even a Volvo or Subaru than another Honda/Acura. |
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Sep 22, 2009 7:23 pm) Acura should be sportier than it is currently. The TL is too big and heavy. I'm actually GLAD that they didn't do a V8 - sixes are more powerful than eights used to be, and Honda makes the best engines around. TL - next gen a bit smaller than previous gen. Electronic features are fine, but Mazda-fy the steering (too bad Honda USED to be known for this). Appearance could be a derivative of the 04-08 car with upgraded styling, perhaps only a little bit of the 09 styling thrown in. TSX - more like prevous gen. Tighter steering. Optional six cyl to compete with the A4. Upgrade the interior to true luxury class, but keep the handling taut. New sedan - competitor to BMW 1-series at lower cost. Smaller than TSX. RL - Needs to be better differentiated in size from TL. If TL gets smaller, keep RL at current size and there you go. MDX - Not many changes needed RDX - Lose the turbo unless you can get some refinement and fuel economy out of the 4. Otherwise just put a six in it. NSX - Bring it back, upgraded, if funds allow. Larger sedan - if funds allow, put out a turbo six, larger than current RL. True luxury sedan, high end. No V8. |
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