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Where is Honda taking Acura?

1045 messages,  Last post on Nov 06, 2009 at 7:12 AM

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Re: What Could Have Been [cwalti] by steve_ HOST
Jul 03, 2009 (7:40 pm)
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Replying to: cwalti (Jul 03, 2009 6:58 pm)

I like Scions, test drove an xD today in fact. But sales are way off for their whole line, and were off even before the big economic slump. (Motorauthority)
 
I talked to a woman a couple of weeks back here who just got a new Element for her vending business (she's hauling lightweight junk around, not the machines). She loves it.
 
I think when the automakers get bold, the bean counters think Aztek.
 
Now, if Honda came out with another roadster, but priced like the Miata, or even less ....
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Re: The new Acura = edgy, big, and soft [hpmctorque] by xrunner2
Jul 04, 2009 (11:48 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Jul 02, 2009 9:27 pm)

Not a perfect solution, but there may not be a perfect solution. Another alternative is to just keep driving the old car. If enough people did that, one would think that it would send a message.
 
Those of us who have last gen TLs (04-08), we may just do that waiting to see if Acura fixes up the current gen or has another model coming out. Who knows that they might be secretly developing a rwd competitior to BMW or Infiniti. Could get tempted into rwd Acura sedan in spite of having 3-4 months winter in my area.
 
On driving forever, there is a guy in New York who has just recently completed three million miles in his 1965 Volvo P1800.
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Re: The new Acura = edgy, big, and soft [xrunner2] by cwalti
Jul 04, 2009 (12:49 pm)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Jul 04, 2009 11:48 am)

On driving forever, there is a guy in New York who has just recently completed three million miles in his 1965 Volvo P1800.
 
This kinda stuff is often a bit misleading. How many head jobs, transmission, engine bottom ends...? There was a diesel MBZ 180, early 60s with 1,000,000 miles on the original driveline! Now that is an accomplishment!
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Where is Honda taking Acura? by hpmctorque
Sep 01, 2009 (8:31 pm)
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Acura has lost me. I favor relatively light and simple, well engineering entry and mid-level luxury cars, but this isn't the direction Acura has taken recently.
 
The new TL is too big and heavy, and handles like a large luxury barge. The TSX looks better than the TL, but the entry and exit space for rear seat passengers is severely compromised. The upshot of Acura's efforts to become a serious contender against the German luxury brands is falling short.
 
I used to be optimistic about Acura, but now I'm not. I'll just hold on to my excellent '99 TL until something more to my liking comes along.
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Re: Where is Honda taking Acura? [hpmctorque] by nippononly
Sep 02, 2009 (6:42 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Sep 01, 2009 8:31 pm)

I'm amazed they sell any cars at all these days, I really am. Now we have the ZDX on its way? Yuck. A pointless vehicle to add to this lineup. Where is the new NSX? Just stalled or gone forever? So they could build the ZDX and make the new TL even heavier than the old one? Honda deserves to have Acura go under, it really does.
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Re: Where is Honda taking Acura? [nippononly] by fintail
Sep 02, 2009 (6:44 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Sep 02, 2009 6:42 am)

Acura ZDX = it is possible to make an X6 uglier. Not just an ugly car, but an ugly ripoff design.
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Re: Where is Honda taking Acura? [nippononly][fintail] by hpmctorque
Sep 02, 2009 (12:14 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Sep 02, 2009 6:44 am)

I agree with both of you. The 4,400 lb., four seater ZDX defines inefficiency.
 
What's sad is that Honda seems to have the best engineering talent of all the Japanese auto companies. Nissan/Infiniti has the right business model, FWD for Nissan and RWD for Infiniti, but Infiniti doesn't seem to be able to beat it's target German competitor, BMW. I think Infinitis are good cars, but "close" isn't good enough in this highly competitive marketplace. Also, I think Infinitis fall short on styling. While their styling isn't bad or offensive, it's bland and kind of sterile. It's not aspirational, as styling in the luxury category should be.
 
Back to Acura, I think that if management made the right strategic decisions, such as converting the brand to RWD, their engineers could execute on the direction required to compete effectively with the German luxury brands. It goes without saying that styling would also have to be totally rethought.
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but hey by nippononly
Sep 02, 2009 (5:29 pm)
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as the TV has so thoughtfully drilled into my brain in the last 4 weeks, they do have the safest cars in the world.
 
You want safe and boring, you buy the Lexus, no?
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Re: but hey [nippononly] by anythngbutgm
Sep 03, 2009 (5:50 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Sep 02, 2009 5:29 pm)

There are a good amount of people that make safety a priority. And safety is one of the calling cards for European brands like Volvo, Mercedes and Audi.
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Re: but hey [anythngbutgm] by hpmctorque
Sep 03, 2009 (1:31 pm)
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Replying to: anythngbutgm (Sep 03, 2009 5:50 am)

I don't think safety is the differentiater it used to be in the '60s, '70s, and '80s. when Volvo, in particular, seriously focused on safety from multiple perspectives. Today's luxury brand cars are all safe, in my estimation. What I'm saying is I wouldn't choose or reject an Acura over one of it's competitors based on safety. Other attributes are more important now, in my opinion.

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