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Where is Honda taking Acura?

1045 messages,  Last post on Nov 06, 2009 at 7:12 AM

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Re: Where Should Honda Take Acura? [tlong] by nippononly
Sep 22, 2009 (9:13 pm)
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Replying to: tlong (Sep 22, 2009 8:13 pm)

They absolutely have to have a new NSX. How could they abandon that?
 
And it would be nice to see a "mini-NSX": a proper sport coupe that is lighter, smaller-engined, lower-priced.
 
Oh, and they really don't need more than two midsize sedans: they can keep their gizmo-lux model (currently the RL) as long as they also have a proper sport sedan, which could be the TL if they sliced half a ton out of its curb weight and gave some road feel to the steering again.
 
The TSX is just a waste of resources unless they choose to keep it instead, give it the optional six, and cancel the TL. But it's an awkward size because of its European heritage: it's too small for Americans that like a wider car with a larger back seat, and it's not small ENOUGH for folks who want a sporty small car (like me).
 
But it is pointless to talk about any of this, because the most fundamental change they MUST MAKE to compete with the big boys is one they won't make: developing a couple of versatile RWD platforms for all Acura models. 300 hp in a FWD sedan? Ridiculous. They are destined to be the Japanese Saab as things stand, and we know where Saab stands relative to BMW, Mercedes, and Lexus. It's the slightly sportier Volvo. Whoop de doo.
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Re: Where Should Honda Take Acura? [tlong] by fintail
Sep 24, 2009 (9:47 am)
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Replying to: tlong (Sep 22, 2009 8:13 pm)

You forgot this beauty. Maybe on purpose
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ZDX - PU by xrunner2
Sep 25, 2009 (12:14 pm)
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Replying to: fintail (Sep 24, 2009 9:47 am)

Acura once made elegant looking cars/vehicles. With ZDX, looks as though they are regressing to Pontiac Aztek mentality. I will keep my 2004 TL. If they don't fix up their styling, and reduce their gadgetry/weight in TL, it will be adios Acura on next vehicle.
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Re: ZDX - PU [xrunner2] by fintail
Sep 25, 2009 (12:27 pm)
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Replying to: xrunner2 (Sep 25, 2009 12:14 pm)

I was out for a walk the other day and walked by a new TL - ghastly. There isn't a panel without a weird crease.
 
The preceding model was a fairly elegant vehicle. I suspect some of those will retain longterm owners like you. A used Type-S might not be a bad pre-owned thing to buy either.
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dealer by stickguy
Sep 25, 2009 (1:05 pm)
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stopped at the dealer today to check out a TSX (not for me, I am helping someone buy one). Not too bad, except for the beak.
 
The TL though was very overdone, and even quite tacky. The interior was also way too busy and overstyled. Made my 2000 sitting outside look svelte and understated.
 
the new RL they had was OK, but again the nose has to go.
 
what is it with car makers trying to stick the same corporate nose on every car? Never seems to work on different sizes, although maybe if they designed a good looking one (something that Acura and Audi both failed at!) it would work better.
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Re: dealer [stickguy] by hpmctorque
Sep 25, 2009 (8:53 pm)
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Replying to: stickguy (Sep 25, 2009 1:05 pm)

Acura should have just continued with the front styling theme of the '99-'08 TLs.
 
The new TSX styling doesn't look bad. However, rear seat leg room is rather tight. Also, the foot space for entering the back seat, between the edge of the rear seat cushion and the bottom of the B post is especially tight. Considering that this is a mid-size 4-door car, that design deficiency alone is a significant demerit. Check it out if you're seriously considering a new TSX.
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New direction for Honda and Acura by steve_ HOST
Oct 27, 2009 (2:21 pm)
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"There's a certain level of confusion within the Acura line-up, we're in the midst of a big change. Post-Lehman we dropped the larger-than-V6 engine, and have to adjust to new consumer demands."
 
New Honda President Lays Out a Few Goals(Straightline)
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Wrong Direction? by hpmctorque
Nov 03, 2009 (8:43 pm)
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I'm beginning to wonder whether Acura will be relevant in a few years. Acura's current products are unappealing, in my opinion, and future products don't look promising.
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Re: Wrong Direction? [hpmctorque] by nippononly
Nov 06, 2009 (7:12 am)
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Replying to: hpmctorque (Nov 03, 2009 8:43 pm)

The only encouraging thing in all these recent announcements concerning Acura is that they are looking at going head to head with the 1-series coupe.
 
I suppose it will be AWD on a FWD platform, which will eliminate it from true BMW competition, but at least we might finally have a fun Acura coupe under $30K again.

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