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2007 Saturn Outlook/GMC Acadia/Buick Enclave

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What is this discussion about? Saturn Outlook, Buick Enclave, GMC Acadia


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Re: confused on what car to get [jay_24] by allmet33
Mar 03, 2008 (8:10 am)
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Replying to: jay_24 (Mar 03, 2008 8:01 am)

Well...in our Outlook...we opted for the captains chairs as the 2nd row. So, one child has to sit in the 3rd row. We can lower the side that's not being used and put luggage there, but like you said...behind the 3rd row seat...the space (while more than most regular SUV's) isn't conducive to packing for long trips. The 60/40 split, may offer a couple of inches more space as compared to the 50/50 split, but with the Outlook being slightly narrower than the Tahoe...it's really not much of an advantage.
 
The way I can pack the luggage would be cool...the baby's bag can go in front of the seat where her car seat is. Stuff for the other girls would most likely fit behind the 3rd row and luggage for mommy and daddy MIGHT fit on the folded down side of the 3rd row seat. The probelm comes in with the need for the stroller, walker/bouncer and other such items. We're also not even talking about the other stuff that might come along as well. So if it were just straight up luggage...it could most likely be done.
 
I can attest that the Tahoe/Yukon has similar problems. My next door neighbor has a Yukon with 3rd row seats. When the seat is up...there is next to NO room behind it at all...maybe for a few bags of groceries.
 
Adding weight will hurt the FE, certainly, but not as much as having something on the roof that would also create more wind resistance while travelling. In all honesty, the best solution may just be a small travel trailer. I think that's what I'll ultimately be doing myself.
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Re: confused on what car to get [allmet33] by mseningen
Mar 06, 2008 (2:06 pm)
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Replying to: allmet33 (Mar 03, 2008 8:10 am)

Well we've got a Ford Explorer now -- and have have a hard shell
roof carrier I take on extended trips. Costs maybe 1MPG.
 
We're leaning heavily towards the Acadia. Wonder if the
hard shell will fit?
 
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Re: confused on what car to get [mseningen] by allmet33
Mar 06, 2008 (2:11 pm)
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Replying to: mseningen (Mar 06, 2008 2:06 pm)

The space on top of the roof looks like it'll handle most cargo carriers. However...you may want to opt for the cross bars (dealer add-on option) so that the carrier will rest on those instead of on the actual roof itself.
 
I know the roof is sturdy though, I carried a 16 ft. fiberglass A-frame ladder (very heavy) and had no problem with the roof caving in or anything.
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Re: Direct Injection [62vetteefp] by tencjedd
Apr 10, 2008 (1:28 pm)
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Replying to: 62vetteefp (Mar 02, 2008 6:16 pm)

Our other family car is a VW Touareg (05 w/ V8). They went direct injection in 07 model year and there was a BIG BOOST in HP. Nearly 30HP jump in the V6, whereby the 07 V6's were putting out 295 compared to the 06 V8's getting 310. The V8's saw a 40HP jump. Would prefer to see this type of gain versus adding more displacement.
 
As for the powered/unpowered issue. My wife and I really felt the car was underpowered, and the vehicle was always searching for the right gear on hills...downshifting, upshifting back right away, then downshifting again. Took the car in for its first service and had a software flash for the transmission and transfer case. WHAT A DIFFERENCE! The throttle response and apparent torque on acceleration feels SO MUCH crisper. Maybe its psychosomatic, but its like its a whole different drivetrain.
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Re: Direct Injection [tencjedd] by 62vetteefp
Apr 10, 2008 (1:54 pm)
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Replying to: tencjedd (Apr 10, 2008 1:28 pm)

Maybe its psychosomatic, but its like its a whole different drivetrain.
 
No you are feeling something completely different with the new cals. The vehicle has lots of power now. Hopefully the 3.6 will get the DI treatment and make 300 hp with little decrease in MPG.
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DI by drwilsc
May 18, 2008 (8:40 am)
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Saturnfans website says the 3.6 DI in the 2009 Otulook XR (and presumably the other lambdas) should make 290 hp (rather than 275) AND get better fuel economy than the current 3.6. They are saying they will start making the 09's in June. Bottom line - if you are interested in these cars, it might be best to hold out for an 09.
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Re: DI [drwilsc] by kcorey
May 18, 2008 (2:14 pm)
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Replying to: drwilsc (May 18, 2008 8:40 am)

At this stage of the game you're right. The '09 Enclaves have several great new features over the '08's. BUT...what is the price difference?!So far, I haven't seen any prices. And, you might be able to get a DEAL on an '08.
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Re: DI [kcorey] by tourguide
May 18, 2008 (3:29 pm)
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Replying to: kcorey (May 18, 2008 2:14 pm)

There isn't anything earth shattering coming out in the 09s to justify a dramatic price increase. Lots of things were rumored, but in the end a few nice options are coming, but no real justification I can see for major price bumps.
 
The 09s will likely be more expensive at the outset simply because they are newer. I would expect this to mediate itself in time and for the price to settle back.
 
I am anxious for the EPA numbers to come out on the new engine. I would expect a small increase in highway mpg, probably not much for city though any increase would be welcome.
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Re: DI [kcorey] by 62vetteefp
May 19, 2008 (3:16 am)
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Replying to: kcorey (May 18, 2008 2:14 pm)

There are no deals on Enclaves except $500 owner loyalty. Heck you might have to wait for an '09 since the 08's are probably already spoken for.
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roof leaks by tom174
May 21, 2008 (9:20 am)
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Good day , i just received my 2007 outlook after 7 days , fixing a " t bar " roof leak and looking for more infor on this situation , dealer had to change all of the interior roof , and i am thinking that this cause my windshield to crack over the last winter , any infor on this situation ,

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