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#52 of 71 Re: 96 GR. Voyager Engine stalls when above 50deg outside [mrhat15] by xwesx May 15, 2009 (4:39 pm)
Replying to: mrhat15 (May 15, 2009 2:13 pm) Have you considered the mass airflow sensor? Try pulling it out and cleaning it to see if it makes any difference. Because it is ambient-temperature related, I suspect this is an air-metering problem.
#53 of 71 1994 Plymouth Grand Voyager 3.8L won't start. by dvdasmth May 18, 2009 (3:21 pm)
My PGV 3.8L just stopped on me. I listened for the "whirl" of the fuel pump when attempting to restart but could not hear it. I replaced the fuel pump but before so doing, checked that voltage was present at the electrical connection and it was: Between 5-10VDC. Still, the car won't start. I checked for spark at the plugs: None from wires. Spark from coil pack: None to wires. I disconnected the neg battery cable when installing pump so I don't think any codes are available. Also, can anyone give me a precise location of crankshaft sensor, camshaft sensor, ignition module and the location of the computer itself? Can I remove the computer and take it to AutoZone or a similar outfit and have the codes retrieved? Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Sincerely, David Replies to this message: garagemechanic (May 19, 2009 4:32 am) dvdasmth (May 19, 2009 6:47 am) rzorn (Jul 14, 2009 10:45 am)
#54 of 71 Re: 1994 Plymouth Grand Voyager 3.8L won't start. [dvdasmth] by garagemechanic May 19, 2009 (4:32 am)
Replying to: dvdasmth (May 18, 2009 3:21 pm) I have a chiltons book at home and will look up those location for you later this evening or tomorrow if that will help. Replies to this message: dvdasmth (May 19, 2009 6:47 am) rzorn (Jul 14, 2009 10:45 am)
#55 of 71 Re: 1994 Plymouth Grand Voyager 3.8L won't start. [garagemechanic] by dvdasmth May 19, 2009 (6:47 am)
Replying to: garagemechanic (May 19, 2009 4:32 am) Thank you for your quick response. I was very happy to learn that Chrysler has its own built in scanner: Turn ignition key on 3 times and the codes will flash. However, since I disconnected the neg battery cable when installing fuel pump, the only code I get is 55: "Completion of fault code display on the Check Engine light." I would really appreaciate the location of those components if you can find them. Thanks Replies to this message: rzorn (Jul 14, 2009 10:45 am)
#56 of 71 Help- 1999 Grand Voyager Cooling fan will not run. by crazy_willy May 20, 2009 (2:16 pm)
I have a 3.3L engine that is overheating. The fan doesn't come on but tested good by using the alligator clips and current from the battery. I had Autozone test the fan relay switch (from the PCM) and it was good as far as they could tell me. In the course of determining the problem I replaced the thermostat and the temperature control sending unit. No success toget the fan started. I am leaning toward the Cooling fan relay module and I need to know where its located and how to test it. Also, what about the wiring harness that leads to the fan?
#57 of 71 What code PO171 means by shopdog97 May 23, 2009 (10:27 am)
Frequent visitors may remember my son's 96 Plymouth Grand Voyager's issues since he bought it in early Feb. Some of the recent ones were minor, such as having to replace both output shaft seals on the trans where the drive axles come out from. He was losing fluid causing the tranny to slip. We resolved that problem the other day.However, he told me the Engine Light was on again(the last time this happened it was the downstream 02 sensor) Anyway, I finally got myself an OBD2 code scanner and the code I retrieved was PO171. Now the scanner manual says this for that code:System too lean, Bank 1. I also looked in my Chilton manual for my 98 Dodge Dakota because there's a code description chart there and it says this-"Right(or just) Fuel System Lean", it also gives this description: "A lean air/fuel mixture has been indicated by an abnormally rich correction factor". Can anyone break this down in plain english? In other words, what can I do to correct this problem? I cleared the code for him but it came back pretty quick, so eventually this is going to need to be dealt with. Any help in the proper direction will be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Replies to this message: shopdog97 (Jun 13, 2009 8:22 am)
#58 of 71 Re: What code PO171 means [shopdog97] by shopdog97 Jun 13, 2009 (8:22 am)
Replying to: shopdog97 (May 23, 2009 10:27 am) Guess I'll answer my own inquiry. I was able to find out at a local Strauss Auto store that this code PO171 can have at least a half dozen meanings. The code reader the guy there used is far more sophisticated then the one I use. It identified the above diagnosis and then proceeded to list a host of issues, some of which were a faulty MAF sensor, fuel pump and or filter issues, and a few other things. I ruled out, and the tech agreed, that because this van is running great and isn't missing a beat, a lot of these problems just don't apply. He focused on finding a vacuum leak in the Evap system, but again the van would have been running poorly and it isn't. One thing I told my son was to check his gas cap. He put on an aftermarket locking type that you can store a spare key if you get locked out or something, and when he took it off, he found that the gasket on it was shot and not sealing well at all. He put on his original one a day or 2 before I saw the tech at Strauss. Anyway, this man cleared the code(s) and the check engine light hasn't come on since(6-9) I have to wonder if the gas cap was the culprit all along. I have a 96 Saturn that the cap wasn't tightened enough by an attendant, and the check engine light came on less that a block away from the station, that's how sensitive these cars can be today. Hope this can help someone else with similar issues.
#59 of 71 Help---wont turn on after drving good--93 Grand Voyager Le 3.3 by mjesus209 Jun 24, 2009 (7:17 pm)
The other day i was driving back from the store, while parking the van, it just shut down and it did not start back up. Gas pump is good. It will turn on for about 3 secs. with starting fluid but will die, even while holding the throttle fully open. Any suggestions on what might be before i take it to a shop? Replies to this message: srs_49 (Jun 25, 2009 6:22 am)
#60 of 71 Re: Help---wont turn on after drving good--93 Grand Voyager Le 3.3 [mjesus209] by srs_49 Jun 25, 2009 (6:22 am)
Replying to: mjesus209 (Jun 24, 2009 7:17 pm) This is just a guess, but since it will run for a few seconds with starting fluid (sprayed into the air intake, I assume) that means you have spark.   Is there a fuse associated with the fuel injectors?
#61 of 71 Re: 1994 Plymouth Grand Voyager 3.8L won't start. [dvdasmth] by rzorn Jul 14, 2009 (10:45 am)
Replying to: dvdasmth (May 19, 2009 6:47 am) Did you ever get your problem resolved? I have a similar type problem with my van.   Thanks

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