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Saturn S-Series Starting Problems

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#37 of 91
To check fuel pump relay... by racermouse
Apr 10, 2008 (3:28 am)
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I don't know what all years this covers, mostly later 90's (mine is '99) but check yours- there are 2 fuseboxes. One is under the hood, other is on PASSENGER Side of center dash console (radio, A/C) it is a plastic door with velcro. put your finger in the hole and pull it off. on the backside of the door is a chart with all the locations of the fuses and relays. swap the FP relay with the one next to it (HVAC blower). When you turn the key to on you will hear it click. Also, there is an FP fuse (should be 10 red) under the Rear Window Defogger relay. Pull off the defogger relay, then pull the FP fuse and check it. Sometimes when mine won't start, pulling the FP fuse and then reinserting it makes it start (weird huh?) CAUTION- when you pull the FP fuse, it will cause your radio to lose all presets and turn your clock back to 12:00.
#38 of 91
chuggle cough sputter by racermouse
May 05, 2008 (12:22 pm)
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I've just gotten out of surgery on the knee, so there won't be any car repairing again soon. I do have an update on the chuggle issue since my last post.
I got a can of CRC carburetor cleaner (use some good stuff, not a cheapie so it can blast) and removed the throttle body and sprayed it out and the idle air sensor screw. Then I re-removed the EGR and sprayed it out also. Upon removal of the EGR , I found a little chunk of carbon deposit stuck in its needle valve, which turns out was the culprit. I had previously cleaned out the EGR with a toothbrush and this must have dislodged the chunk.
 
Even though I am still chasing the starting problem, since cleaning out the throttle body the car runs like it has a new engine. and the weirdness continues....
#39 of 91
Cranks but won't start -PROBLEM SOLVED!!!!!! by racermouse
May 20, 2008 (12:03 am)
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The next thing I was going to try was to replace the CKP (CPS) Crank Position Sensor, but I didn't want to start replacing part by part until I found the problem. So I went to a shop and had them do a diagnostic and OBD scan.
Code 336- CKP sensor fault code signal intermittent.
So I went to AutoZone and picked up one SU-185, only $13.99. This repair will be around $200 if you have a shop do it.
Now I am 2 weeks out of knee surgery with a knee immobilzer on, and I crawled under that car and did it in 2 hours, WITHOUT removing the starter.
NOTE: The bolt that holds it into the engine block was so loose I unscrewed it with my fingers. This most likely contributed to the failure of the CKP.
If anyone out there wants to do this themself and need more info email me I can tell you how I did it w/o removing starter. Also, I got great info from a Youtube video. There is a guy that has over 120 Youtube vids on saturn repairs of all types, and he is very good.
 my email : racermousehotmail.com
 
 repair vids> http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?p=r&user=richpin06a&page=1
#40 of 91
Intermittent Start Problem by krisbj22
May 24, 2008 (1:35 pm)
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I have a 2001 Saturn SL sedan. Frequently, I'll take a short drive to the store, the bank, etc. park, turn the car off, come back 15 minutes later, turn the key and nothing happens. The battery is fine, the radio runs, all lights turn on, door locks function, but the car will not turn over. Absolutely nothing happens.
 
I have noticed that it seems to be related to the temperature. It only seems to happen on warm days. I've taken it in to be looked at by both the dealer and a private mechanic. They all seem to think it's the starter, but I don't agree. The car starts just fine most of the time.
 
Anyone else have this experience or have any insight?
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Re: Intermittent Start Problem [krisbj22] by racermouse
Jun 03, 2008 (7:37 pm)
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Replying to: krisbj22 (May 24, 2008 1:35 pm)

hey krisbj22, while researching my problem, (and I did alot of research!!) I found that Saturns typically run hot. This of course causes many engine parts and accessories to prematurely fail. It is well known in the Saturn repair circle that starter windings develop dead spots and solenoids burn out frequently. If you are of the mechanically inclined, remove your starter and solenoid and take it to your local Autozone where they will bench test it for free.
Good luck!!
#42 of 91
No start problem by masters142
Jun 09, 2008 (6:08 pm)
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#43 of 91
Starting and stalling problems and wierd idle by paul03
Jun 13, 2008 (2:05 pm)
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Help me please! My girlfriend bought a 95 sl1 and It ran fine for a while exept for a wierd idle when she stops. I checked the vaccume lines and there all fine. Just recently she was having trouble tring to start it. She has to push the gas pedal to the floor to get the car to start. When she goes into reverse or forward the car stalls and frequently stalls while she drives it. I told her to turn the key to the run position and wait 10 seconds then start it ,and that only works sometimes.By the way the car does not have a check engine light on if that helps any. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
#44 of 91
Re: Starting and stalling problems and wierd idle [paul03] by saturn56
Jun 13, 2008 (2:20 pm)
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Replying to: paul03 (Jun 13, 2008 2:05 pm)

FOR SOME STRANGE REASON MY 95 SATURN HAS BEEN DOING THE SAME THING......WHY...I DONT KNOW....MY PROMBLEM NOW...IS THAT OUT OF NOWHERE THE ENGINE JUST DECIDES TO IDLE MUCH FASTER....MY MECHCANIC SAIDS I HAVE TO SPEND 200.00 TO REPLACE THE COMPUTER CHIP!.....CAN ANYBODY HELP?
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Starting and stalling problems by paul03
Jun 13, 2008 (3:41 pm)
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Replying to: saturn56 (Jun 13, 2008 2:20 pm)

I tried doing the hvac relay swap and that did not help. I can hear the fue pump start up too. I cleaned the throttle body and the sensor with the spring the were really gumed up but that did not help. Mabey fuel filter? or bad Injectors?
#46 of 91
Re: Starting and stalling problems and wierd idle [saturn56] by 442dude
Jun 18, 2008 (6:04 am)
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Replying to: saturn56 (Jun 13, 2008 2:20 pm)

Its a common problem on the S-series...check the ECTS (engine coolant temperature sensor) - Located on the right side of the engine as you look at it from the front, on the block just below the head...easy fix, should cost you about $ 25.00 and take about 15 minutes...They redesigned them after 1995 because of the frequent failures. Make sure the new one you buy has a brass, not plastic tip. Also check the connector, if its corroded you may need to replace it as well.

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