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#26 of 92 Saturn SL2 stalls when I apply the brake by skaus Dec 14, 2007 (1:34 am)
Hi All Yesterday I was 95 miles from home and I had a transmission leak from the filter. I lost 3 qts of oil. I replaced the filter and put 3 qts back . The reason I looked under the hood was 2 fold. I kept stalling at my destination and the ABS light was on. The engine would stall only if I applied the brake pedal.    Six hrs later in panic mode ,having to drive 85 miles back home I found 1 solution. Remove fuse from brake and I made it home. If I but the fuse back in and press the brake pedal the engine will die .    Okay my transmission was soaked with oil. I cleaned off all oil. I checked the wiring harness and it was clean .    **In front of transmission are 2 sensors or switches. If I look at wiring diagram it shows Brake transmission safety interlock ,Brake sense switch and stop light switch all in series. Could one of these be my problem? Another thing when I step on brake pedal the dash board left and right signals light up dimly . Please let me know what you think. Thanks
#27 of 92 Re: '98 SC1 weird starting issue [shoppermom] by jlwilsonnn Dec 22, 2007 (1:49 pm)
Replying to: shoppermom (Sep 20, 2007 5:58 am) I believe it is "B" the CKP. aka crankshaft position sensor. Just curious, how did you get Crankshaft position sensor in there as on of your choices??? Whether you jump started it or popped the clutch is inconsequential. What it needed both times is just a little time to cool down. The CKP sometimes overheats as it ages but its rare and tech's just haven't come across it. As it heats up the electrical properties change. The Impedance, measured in ohms, changes too much beyond tolerances to operate. Many messages in this string are, I believe, the same problem. I know, I had the same problem. Even had one tech tell me he thought it was the automatic transmission.
#28 of 92 1997 SC2 Starting Problem by juliomex4ever Jan 27, 2008 (9:46 am)
My Saturn doesnt have much of a problem the thing is when i try to start it it chugs and sometimes doesnt turn on. . Should i hold the key turned and continue chuggging it or stop cuz it might mess up the car. Also i think the problem could be old spark plugs is that the problem? This is my first car and i would like to know as much as possible in maintaining it. Its at 119,660 miles.
#29 of 92 Re: help for some [kdkay] by racermouse Feb 08, 2008 (1:12 am)
Replying to: kdkay (Nov 04, 2007 9:29 pm) Just bought a 99 SL2. Had same problem many of you describe, sometimes would start right up and usually would take many attempts of cranking over before finally starting. kday post was exactly the cure, switching the relays. Now car starts right up every time. I researched extensively many forums and there were about 10 things I was gonna try that other people suggested. However, I logically determined that many of these were not the cause, and here is why: 1- if the starter cranks but the engine won't start ( and then sometimes does) its not the starter. 2- once the engine finally starts and then runs fine, its not the fuel pump, or ignition.   I determined the most likely cause was something keeping fuel from reaching the engine to start it. And so it became an electrical switching type problem, and as mentioned previously, once started it runs fine, so not something that would keep it from running altogether, like a bad fuel pump.   My hat is off to kday for finding a fix that involves not spending ANY $$$ to repair. Replies to this message: clifford59 (Mar 22, 2008 3:18 pm) jarquer (Mar 23, 2008 1:22 pm) racermouse (Apr 10, 2008 2:46 am)
#30 of 92 Help engine Problems by christys Feb 11, 2008 (9:18 am)
hello all i hope some one has some insite to my issue..... okay have 1993 saturn sl1 recently engine light comes on but goes off after a few seconds then car stalled while in an intersection tried to start back up wouldnt start so i left and let it sit for a few hours came back car started with no problem drove is 15 minutes down the road stopped to get a bit to eat thinking it was a fluke went to start it suprise suprise wont start had to get a jump which took 10 minutes to do next day started it in drive way started right up but i was afraid of driving it for fear of being stranded again... any one have any ideas??????
#31 of 92 Dead saturn each morning by carless08 Feb 23, 2008 (7:37 am)
As a good Aunt I thought I was doing my 16 year old Niece a favor by buying her her first car a 1993 Saturn. It's turned into a nightmare. I purchased it about a year ago and it sat in my driveway until her birthday in the spring. I would go out and attempt to turn it over every so often and it would be dead. I figured it was from sitting so I charged the battery. When it became a consistent problem I brought it to my mechanic who said it was the battery. A new battery later the problem was still not resolved. There seemed to be something draining the battery so I began pulling out fuses. I thought I had it narrowed down to the rear window motor. Spring came and my niece recieved her gift.        Through the warm months the car was dead a few times usually in the morning. She would have it jumped and then it would be OK. Through the winter months it's a daily occurrence. It's been in and out of the shop. Besides the new battery it's had a new starter, alternator and radiator but no one can seem to figure out what this problem is.         The only other thing when it sat in my driveway the roof actually leaked( I had it sealed) water definitely got down the doors into the window mechnisms. The rear motor never worked.        Any input would be greatly appreciated.
#32 of 92 99 Saturn wont start in extreme cold by dylan01 Feb 29, 2008 (5:56 am)
Hi, my daughter has a 1999 Saturn, which only has 40,000 miles on it, so its in perfect condition (it was previously owned by my father). Anyway, when it is very cold, seems to be when uder 15 degrees....it won't start. It's not the battery, it cranks fine. Had previously brought it to mechanic, who put it on computer diag and of course found nothing. I notice that I don't hear the Fuel Pump kick-in when I turn the key....so is it possible that the pump "freezes up" ??? I have been told that its very unlikely that is happening...also unlikely that gas line is prob, and I have been using gas line anti freeze lately. Mechanic said that I may want to change Fuel pump if it keeps up, but we're talking about a 300. + job, since pump located in fuel tank....would hate to go that route, if thats not the prob. I've also tried rapping the fuel tank when this happens to see if I could give it a kick start. There is also a fuel pump relay somewhere. I guess I could try replacing that , although the Saturn dealer says that hes never seen one of those have problems. If anyone could give me a hint where that is located, I would appreciate it, as its not in fuse box with other fuses and relays. OK, If anyone has any suggestions, I'd appreciate it....Thanks ! Replies to this message: kdkay (Mar 06, 2008 12:53 am)
#33 of 92 Re: 99 Saturn wont start in extreme cold [dylan01] by kdkay Mar 06, 2008 (12:53 am)
Replying to: dylan01 (Feb 29, 2008 5:56 am) I had the same problem with my 95 except it was doing it in the summer as well. It was the fuel pump relay. I didn't even buy a new one i just switched it with the HVAC relay and everything works fine. I have had some people reply and say that worked for them also, so yes they do go bad and computer diagnostics will not detect it. Did you check both fuse boxes? My 95 has a fuse box under the hood and under the dash next to glove box(which is where my fuel pump relay was). I'm not sure if mine just wasn't making good contact or what cuz my HVAC all work fine and that's where i put the relay that was originally the fuel pump one. Good luck to you, hopefully that is your problem and not the 300 fuel pump. If the car runs fine once it does start then it shouldn't be the fuel pump.
#34 of 92 Re: help for some [racermouse] by clifford59 Mar 22, 2008 (3:18 pm)
Replying to: racermouse (Feb 08, 2008 1:12 am) i'm having the same issue with my 1993 sc2, did you find out your problem yet, i'm changeing the fuel filter tomorrow hopefully that does it Replies to this message: jarquer (Mar 23, 2008 1:22 pm) racermouse (Apr 10, 2008 2:46 am)
#35 of 92 Re: help for some [clifford59] by jarquer Mar 23, 2008 (1:22 pm)
Replying to: clifford59 (Mar 22, 2008 3:18 pm) unfortunately I changed the fuel pump and some other parts that had been suggested and it still is not working properly. I switched out the relay fuses like someone suggested and seemed to work for awhile, then back to the same old thing. I am gong to buy some new relays and see if that cures my problem. Good luck.

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