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Re: Vibration Issue Resolved [bigdadi118] by blackhonda1
Feb 08, 2009 (9:05 pm)
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Replying to: bigdadi118 (Nov 13, 2008 8:52 pm)

The following has been replaced/repaired on my 05 Touring Odyssey:
1. Replaced rt. front knuckle, all bearings and hubs.
2. New tires.
3. Replaced both driveshaft assemblies
4. Replaced both rotors.
5. Replace exhaust pipe per bulletin.
6.Replaced outer tie rod ends.
7. Replaced brake pads, rotors and calipers.
8. Replaced power steering rack assembly, tie rods and boots.
9. Replaced transmission/transaxle
10. Replaced Motor mounts on rear of engine.
(All done in the past 4 months!!)
 
** Now for an update. Let me remind you that I just had the transmission replaced less than 2 months ago and then today, while driving down the interstate with my little ones in tow, a sluggish jerk happened and a warning came on my screen about the transmission. The "D" (drive) light was flashing and the van did not seem to change gears at all. Luckily I only drove for 15 more mins. to make it to my driveway safely. Still waiting on my attorney to follow up with me on this case. NO ONE should have to deal with such POOR QUALITY of a product!! Honestly, I can say that I would never repurchase a Honda Odyssey Van!! And anyone considering to purchase one better do some extra homework on this product!! Seems like a lot of us are dealing with transmission/vibration issues which Honda should do a recall on! I can see how concerned they are at keeping their customers happy and making sure they will return!!
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Re: It's the motor mount [blountl3] by blackhonda1
Feb 08, 2009 (9:20 pm)
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Replying to: blountl3 (Jan 22, 2009 4:36 pm)

Hello!
Good luck with getting the adequate response from Honda concerning our issues. I have been dealing with my vibration issues for over 2 years now and have not had my issues resolved even once-- not even after Honda sends an Engineer from Chicago to inspect my vehicle and everything Honda Tech Line stated to replace was replaced! I would bet the CEO's and the Engineer that "inspected" my "normal driving operations" odyssey touring would not drive 2 miles in my clunker of a Honda! They would have a new replacement, like I should have had over 2 years ago! I am seeking legal advise at this time and would suggest all who are having this particular problem to as well. Best of luck!
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It's not the Motor Mount or the Y exhaust!!!! by crazyvan
Feb 19, 2009 (6:14 pm)
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I have had the same problem as mentioned above, exactly on my '05 Touring Odyssey. My mechanic has replaced the motor mount, which they said was broken. Done. They have now replaced the Y in the exhaust as described on the Honda Bulletin. Done, yet the noise is still there. $1500 later, I have now been told it is a major engine issue with the rear cylinder head, valve train mechanism. My van has 59,000 miles and is out of warranty. The mechanic (non-Honda) has spoken with Honda and they are looking at it tomorrow. The mechanic said Honda may ask me to pay half, but encouraged me to speak with Honda CS if they do. From reading the above I do not have a very good feeling about this!
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Re: It's not the Motor Mount or the Y exhaust!!!! [crazyvan] by bigdadi118
Feb 19, 2009 (8:24 pm)
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Replying to: crazyvan (Feb 19, 2009 6:14 pm)

There is one more area to look at ...
Rubber Exhaust Hanger
 

 
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Vibration and Slipping Solved!!!!!! by ranger80
Apr 15, 2009 (8:11 pm)
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Hi all,
I have experienced the same vibration and slipping sensation with my '05 Odyssey EX-L . In November I had one motor mount replaced. There was a little less vibration, but it was not gone. I began doing on-line research and almost gave up hope after reading many disappointed Odyssey owners in this discussion. I came across another forum where the fix for the problem was said to be the torque converter. I had the dealer run a test on the torque converter and they said it was bad. They replaced the bad part and it runs like new again!!!! No more vibration and no more slipping sensation!!! I hope this helps!!
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Re: Vibration and Slipping Solved!!!!!! [ranger80] by ddssjsk
May 04, 2009 (12:16 pm)
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Replying to: ranger80 (Apr 15, 2009 8:11 pm)

Transmission torque converter failure is the problem. Symptoms consist of shudder, vibration, delaged engagement in first and or reverse, exhaust droan, surging under light load, premature failure of engine mounts, soft brake pedal feel at stops, Honda uses a variable apply torque converter. Sticking mechanical valves in the torque converter timing valve are the problem. (do not set codes) Gives impression of VCM or Cylinder management problems. If the variable apply is not working converter goes to full engagement at to low an RPM causing lugging and vibration. Of course when the engine lugs to much then the cylinder management system kicks in and out giving the impression it occures during the ECO mode. It is actually a symptom of the torque converter management system failing. I bought a set of Honda service manuals, did some research and confirmed my suspicions with to different dealer service departments. Diagnosis is via computer snap shot and analizeing a graff while the vehicle is being driven. Have a good talk with your dealer service manager about this. Note: some or all of the above symptoms may apply depending how severe the failure.
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Re: Vibration and Slipping Solved!!!!!! [ddssjsk] by my07
Jun 29, 2009 (6:21 pm)
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Replying to: ddssjsk (May 04, 2009 12:16 pm)

From reading this post it sounds like you are describing my 07 Touring. I can set the cruise control at 60 and it feels like the transmission is constantly shifting but the tach doesn't move much. I was thinking it was the VCM as it sort of coincides with the ECO light but not always. Do you have anything from Honda on how to test for this torque converter issue? My dealer just keeps telling me everything is normal (mostly based on the absence of codes in the computer).
#91 of 166
Re: Vibration and Slipping Solved!!!!!! [my07] by ranger80
Jun 29, 2009 (8:03 pm)
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Replying to: my07 (Jun 29, 2009 6:21 pm)

The "everything is normal" seems to be a common response. Ask the shop to specifically test the torque converter. Get it fixed now before the excessive vibration begins to deteriorate your engine mounts.
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Re: Vibration and Slipping Solved!!!!!! [ranger80] by bigdadi118
Jun 29, 2009 (8:45 pm)
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Replying to: ranger80 (Jun 29, 2009 8:03 pm)

Other than "Everything is Normal", it is the "Character of the car" that is how it comes with so bear with it. May be that is the content of first day of ASE101 class.
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Vibration, Shudder, One Owner's Solution by jet_tester
Jul 03, 2009 (6:12 pm)
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Thanks to all for posting problems and solutions on this site. I have a 2007 Honda Odyssey that I have been fairly satisfied with. Current mileage is 36000. For the past 6000 miles or so I've been experiencing a vibration/shudder at 40-45 mph, observing engine rpms fluctuate from 1300-1600 associated with shifting into 5th gear. I have also noticed what felt like an intermittent misfire feeling at cruise speeds. I noticed this more during cold weather, more when the car was cold and more when I had the whole family in the van (600# of people). At 40-45 the problem was regularly intermittent with variations in engine rpm and an engine lugging sound (and associated vibration). Also, the best way of reproducing the problem seemed to be to get it into the sweet spot (40-45mph/1300-1500rpm) and come to a slight incline in the road requiring almost a breath of increase in the accelerator.
 
On my initial complaint to the dealer I got the "normal condition" line. Doesn't work with me, I test aircraft for a living and know the difference between normal and "interesting". After the first visit I did my internet research, worked on defining the problem and developed my strategy for the next visit. 1st, I needed a dealer who could hook up a computer to take a snapshot during the shudder behavior. 2nd I needed a dealership technician who had seen the problem before (very important). I found both at Scholfield East Honda in Wichita, KS.
 
The technician, who had experienced two Odyssey's with the same condition in the past, was able to reproduce the problem, take the snapshot and send it to Honda. The solution was to replace the torque converter. The repair took two days, the torque converter was replaced, the engine computer was updated, they cleaned out the transmission cooler lines (I have a towing package) and performed an alignment all on warranty. I picked up the van this evening and it drives "properly" again.
 
Hope this helps. I would definitely shop for a Honda dealer that has seen this problem before. Search out a technician who knows how to reproduce the problem.
 
Thanks again,

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