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Odyssey vibrations by newsubifan
Nov 09, 2008 (9:06 am)
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Does anyone out there know of an instrument which can measure the vibrations of a car?
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Re: Vibration again, Many sources ? [cja2] by vlentz
Nov 10, 2008 (9:25 am)
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Replying to: cja2 (Nov 09, 2008 6:14 am)

My LX doesn't have VCM. It vibrates at 1500 rpms 42 - 52 mph. The peak is at 48 mph just holding speed. When I let off it smooths right out and if I step down it smooths out.
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Re: Vibration again, Many sources ? [vlentz] by newsubifan
Nov 11, 2008 (4:12 am)
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Replying to: vlentz (Nov 10, 2008 9:25 am)

Vlentz,
Though your vibration issue sounds similar to the issue we have with our 2008 LX, it may be different. Like yours, ours is very noticeable at 50 mph. But unlike yours, ours worsens with increased speed. We are in the process of trying to determine if alloy wheels will eliminate the problem, since our Service Tech told us the problem was inherant in all LX's due to the steel wheels. Any thoughts?
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Re: Vibration again, Many sources ? [vlentz] by cja2
Nov 11, 2008 (4:34 am)
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Replying to: vlentz (Nov 10, 2008 9:25 am)

It sounds like one or both front wheels are out of balance. But the fact that when you either press on the gas or let off it seems to go away. Must be something in the suspension or drive train. Is it very bad? Does it always happen or only sometimes? My 05 EX-L Also has a "chronic" steering wheel shake that comes and goes. Thankfully it is gone most of the time but does visit me at least once during a drive around the same speeds if not higher. I was so thankful to get rid of vibration caused by the motor mount the steering wheel vibration hasn't started bugging me just yet but I am sure it will. Let me know if vibration is there every time you hit that speed or jsut sometimes. Also, is it the same level of vibration each time? Is steering wheel vibrating along with the van or just in the wheel?
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Re: Vibration again, Many sources ? [newsubifan] by vlentz
Nov 11, 2008 (8:51 am)
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Replying to: newsubifan (Nov 11, 2008 4:12 am)

newsubifan
 
I can reproduce my problem at any time. As soon as it goes into overdrive you can feel vibration in the gas pedal and the steering wheel. It will peak around 48 or 50 mph. As soon as you let off or increase the gas it stops. The factory rep agrees that he feel it and states that there is no fix or he would fix it. He states that it is the transmission trying to "lock in". He had me drive a 2009 LX and it did the same thing. That, he says makes it "normal" I say if he has a thousand cars that exhibit the same vibration that doesn't make it normal, that makes him having a thousand cars that are defective. American Honda called and asked about it. I told them that I felt compelled to buy the extended warranty because in my opinion there has to be wear in that drive train. I asked that they split the cost of a six year 120,000 mile zero deductible EW with me. They will "get back to me" by Wednesday (tomorrow). I'll let you know!!
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Re: Vibration again [cja2] by arekay1
Nov 11, 2008 (3:44 pm)
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Replying to: cja2 (Nov 06, 2008 3:39 am)

CJA2 - I had my 05 EL-X w 65Kmiles in to Honda last week. They indicated a collapsed rear engine mount. I said go ahead - but I want the old part. Its a pretty significant item - moving the part on my work bench I could feel and hear it grind and crunch. And now...... volia ! - no more vibration in the cabin.
Previously I experienced a shudder - but I think the engine mount now has the balls to hold down the engine and suppress what previously manifested itself into a shudder. Eventhough the vibration is gone - I can detect those times when the engine is in ECO and not capable of deliverying a super smooth ride. I honestly believe the engine should (and used to) run a bit smoother - this rougher ride is what cause the mount to fail in the first place.
But at least I don't feel like I have to sell the car. If anyone knows of other items that could smooth the ride in ECO I would love to know - however reading "vlentz - had me drive a 2009 LX which did the same thing" - maybe that's as good as it gets. I going to keep checking back to see what others find.
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Re: Vibration again, Many sources ? [vlentz] by newsubifan
Nov 11, 2008 (6:42 pm)
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Replying to: vlentz (Nov 11, 2008 8:51 am)

Yes, I will be interested to hear if they are going to help you out at all, especially since your car is so new. Ours is brand new and our dealership, Kuhn in Tampa, both sales and service, seem to be hanging us out to dry. The service dept. closed out our warranty on the vibration issue so that if we take it to another dealer to have it checked, it is out of pocket. The sales dept offerred to buy our car back from us for $6300 less than we paid for it. We've had it for a little over a week! Our vibrations first become a true nuisance at 50 mph and get stronger with increased speed. They are felt in the steering wheel, floor and seat. A Honda case manager is supposed to call me tomorrow. I'll keep you posted.
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Re: Vibration again, Many sources ? [newsubifan] by vlentz
Nov 12, 2008 (2:00 pm)
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Replying to: newsubifan (Nov 11, 2008 6:42 pm)

newsubifan
Just heard from American Honda. They talked to the factory rep that rode with me and he stated that it was normal for this model and there was no fix available. For that reason they wouldn't offer me any assistance with the EW. I asked what percent of the settlement they would pay if the drive train failed after the warranty expired and they couldn't tell me. I feel compelled to buy the EW. The truth is even if there is no failure this car is annoying to drive. I have a $27,000 in this car and I hate driving it. I bought it brand new a couple of months ago and have had it back three times to one dealer and once to another. They all say it's normal. I will never buy another Honda. I am checking legal avenues through the lemon law but don't think it will help.
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Re: Vibration again, Many sources ? [newsubifan] by fsudreyer
Nov 12, 2008 (4:01 pm)
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Replying to: newsubifan (Nov 11, 2008 6:42 pm)

To newsubifan and all others that this forum is about.
 
     I am the original poster of this vibration crap! After many visits to different dealerships, my van finally drives much better. I would not say perfect but more than acceptable. As other posters have said, there is a TSB about the rear engine mounts. I had those replaced. The van was better but not great. I could tell it helped. I then had to replace the factory michellins at 26k miles. That's pathetic but what can I say! I went the advice of Tire Kingdom for a "soft" ride and that tire is a Yokohama Avid. They were only $105 each. What a difference. The van drives much better. The vibration at 42-50 is completely gone. I have minimal vibration at upper highway speeds (70-85). What a difference. Hope this helps everyone. What a nightmare honda has caused. Sad if the Michellins are the leading cause.
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Re: Vibration again, Many sources ? [vlentz] by newsubifan
Nov 12, 2008 (4:07 pm)
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Replying to: vlentz (Nov 12, 2008 2:00 pm)

Vlentz,
I am sorry to hear about American Honda. It is too bad they do not back their product. I am having a similar experience. I feel like I'm being given the run-around. I have also been told my vehicle is normal, (after it spent its first week in the shop) though my vibrations are quite different than yours. Both of our cars cannot be normal if they are doing different things -- yours with intermittent vibrations at a specified speed and mine with constant vibrations that get stronger with increased speed. My dealership also wants me to drive an LX which they say they will have ready for me when I arrive. We decided to test drive one at another dealership to investigate this. My husband is doing this as we speak. All I know is that I was sold a sub-standard vehicle which we reported as such within 1 day of ownership. We have experienced nothing but extremely poor customer service from both the dealership and Honda since. We have owned the car less than 2 weeks now. I feel your pain. However, you may be eligible to pursue the Lemon Law since your vehicle has been serviced at least 3 times (that's from FL). We were cut off at 2. We cannot take our car to another dealer for service since our dealership, Kuhn, closed out the warranty for our vibration issue. After finding no source for the vibrations, the Honda rep deemed our car within spec. I am trying to get the GM to take a drive in my car. Then he will see exactly what was sold to us. I am also trying to find a friend who might know the owner. Perhaps that will spur some action.

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