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Replying to: skibrain (Dec 25, 2006 10:43 am) I Have 2005 Ody LX-L with VCM with the same issue. Was in dealership in Rockford, IL 4 times (dealership seams to be nice and attentive, but they get no help from Honda except replace this or that). Initallly power steering pump was replaced (was making noise too), but it didn't get rid of main humming-vibration which occures at 1600 and 2100 RPM's (since it is on certain freequencies, I shall call it RESONANCE). Then parts of exaust maniflold and tail pipe were changed - no effect.So I called honda Customer service (I would say customer ditch off) talked with regional manager whose name is Julie Kim - who is completely incompetent in mechanics or physics - probably has degree in political science or liberal arts - zero understanding of the mechanical problem, but great in ditching people off. Requested to give extended warranty since resonance is known to damage things - they don't care. THEY DON'T CARE - even though I own two new Hondas and told that they can loose customer forever. Now I am requesting written statement that sounds and vibrations at certain freequencies (resonance) are usual sounds made by Honda cars, and I shall not give up until I'll get it. Othervise I like Hondas for their stiffer suspencion and ride, but really not happy with CS. |
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Hi everyone, I have droning sounds on my 2005 LX-L. THIS IS STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING DEFECT due to resonance. It occures at 1500-1600 and 2000-2100 RPM especially whem more torque is needed (acceleration, uphill climbing). It will not go away until Honda will change engine mounts or other unknown to me (probably to them too) parts. Changing A pipe reduces the sound, but A-pipe failure is due to the resonance and will happen again and again. The resonance is well known to damage and destroy things. Honda probably doesnt care about it, since damage occures way beyond warranty to other parts (already had power steering pump replaced as well as brakes) probably transmission and other parts. People, if you in search of new minivan DO NOT BUY HONDA ODYSSEY LX-L (leather with cylinder managment) or Touring - it will give you trouble in future, unless Honda acknowledges the problem and shall fix it. Meanwhile it should give extended warranty on these cars for free as a courtesy and acknowledgment of destructive resonance -humming, vibration.
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Replying to: artas (May 21, 2007 6:28 am) |
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| I am driving a 2006 EX-L with 31,500 miles on it. When I am about 70 - 75 mph and pressed on the brakes to slow down (not abrupt braking), my steering wheel tends to vibrate. I just had my wheels balanced last month so I suppose it is not a balancing issue. Tire pressure is also correct. If anyone has the same problem and has solved it, I would really appreciate the advice. Thank you. | |
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Replying to: artas (May 21, 2007 6:28 am)
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Replying to: markthomas (Feb 16, 2008 3:49 pm)
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Replying to: artas (Feb 16, 2008 5:05 pm)  Hey, artas...I wasn't doubting you...rather I was saying that I am experiencing exactly what you have described! I don't need lessons in resonance, I need more evidence of damage caused by the Honda Odyssey's resonance so I can show it to the dealer (if not use it in court)!! Can you help me out? You've said on another forum that complaints about this are all over the web...can you send me links??
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Replying to: markthomas (Feb 16, 2008 6:48 pm)
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Replying to: artas (Feb 17, 2008 6:03 am) Service Bulletin 06-083 December 1, 2006 Applies To: 2005–06 Odyssey EX-L – ALL 2005–06 Odyssey Touring – ALL Excessive Engine Vibration at Idle or Below 2,100 RPM SYMPTOM The engine vibrates excessively at idle or, under load, up to about 2,100 rpm. PROBABLE CAUSE The rubber inside the rear engine mount is torn. CORRECTIVE ACTION Replace the rear engine mount and its mounting bolts. PARTS INFORMATION Rear Engine Mount: P/N 50810-SHJ-A62, H/C 8485906 Rear Engine Mount Bolt, 10 x 35: P/N 90163-SDA-A01, H/C 7151350 Rear Engine Mount Bolt, 10 x 20 (four required): P/N 90163-S5A-000, H/C 6462931 WARRANTY CLAIM INFORMATION In warranty: The normal warranty applies. Operation Number: 1121C3 Flat Rate Time: 1.0 hour Failed Part: P/N 50810-SHJ-A61 H/C 7813967 Defect Code: 02101 Symptom Code: 04505 Template ID: 06-083A Skill Level: Repair Technician Out of warranty: Any repair performed after warranty expiration may be eligible for goodwill consideration by the District Parts and Service Manager or your Zone Office. You must request consideration, and get a decision, before starting work.DIAGNOSIS 1. Raise the vehicle on a lift. 2. Using a .610 mm (.024 inch) feeler gauge, check for clearance between the rear engine mount’s rubber bumper and its bracket. Also check the shape of the rear engine mount. • If you can’t get the feeler gauge to slide through the entire length of the rubber bumper and the engine mount bulges out (is shaped like a donut), go to REPAIR PROCEDURE. • If the feeler gauge slides through the entire length of the rubber bumper and the engine mount looks slightly deflated, this service bulletin does not apply. Continue with normal troubleshooting to find the cause of the engine vibration. Engine mount bulges out. Feeler gauge will not slide between the bumper and bracket. REPAIR PROCEDURE 1. Take weight off the rear engine mount by supporting the transmission with a screw jack. 2. Disconnect the connector from the rear ACM (active control engine mount) actuator. 3. Remove the rear engine mount stop (two nuts) and the rear engine mount (five bolts). 4. Using five new bolts, install a new rear engine mount in the reverse order of removal. NOTE: • Torque the new rear engine mount bolts to 54 N.m (40 lb-ft). • Torque the engine mount stop nuts to 73 N.m (54 lb-ft). 5. With the screw jack removed, make sure the exhaust pipe A bracket is centered in its rubber mount. If needed, center the bracket by tapping it with a hammer. NOTE: Step 5 is not needed if the vehicle was already repaired according to Service Bulletin 06-050, Droan or Moan When Driving at 2,100 RPM.
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