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Re: 2007 Odyssey Vibration - Worse with Update [dnicola]
by my07
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Oct 08, 2009 (8:47 am)
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Replying to: dnicola (Oct 08, 2009 7:30 am)
My dealer had my van all of last week to replace the torque converter and fix one of the power sliding doors. When they replaced the converter they had to do an alignment and now the steering wheel points at 1 o'clock when driving straight. I noticed it after I drove out of the dealership on got on the highway. Anyhow they have committed to fixing that on my next service. The trans is much better now. Upshifts and downshift are less harsh. Before it often felt like I drove over something when coming to a stop. Overall the van drives smoother also. I have not felt any judder so far. After the update it would judder quite often. The service writer I dealt with said they are now finding out that about 90% of the time (according to Honda) that the update will not fix the problem and the torque converter will have to be replaced. She said the they now order a torque converter as soon as the update is performed. I, on the other hand, had to have the update done and then return so they could "see" if I really needed a new converter. I will never buy another Honda.
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- #128 of 175
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Re: 2007 Odyssey Vibration - Worse with Update [my07]
by gkrangan
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Oct 08, 2009 (9:15 am)
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Replying to: my07 (Oct 08, 2009 8:47 am)
Bought this 2007 Odyssey on Sep 4th, with 3.5months of B2B warranty left. I found moldings loose, some things broken or needed fixing. So, I took it to the nearest dealer - RoushHonda in Westerville, OH and while they ordered parts to fix those items, they suggested that I apply the software update for the judder problem. I had felt that the van wasn't shifting very smooth at low speeds, so i agreed for them to apply the update. After the update was applied, things got really bad. Once the engine/transmission would warm up to the normal operating temps, the judder would happen 90% of the time between the speeds of 25-30mph or between 35-40mph while accelerating slowly - fairly typical driving conditions on 35mph roads with lots of traffic lights. Took it back to the dealer the next day armed with all of the TSBs and printouts from the forums, including this one, and had their senior mechanic drive with me. It did not happen for the first 10mins or so.. but after that, it showed up a little bit. But, my service manager was good and very nice. He went ahead and ordered the torque converter and scheduled the repair for today (Oct 8th). But, over the past one week, it's been getting more and more worse. When i dropped off the van at the dealer's yesterday, i had the service guy ride with me and it happened 5 times in 10mins of driving. I was definitely getting better at recreating the issue on demand. I made him write all of the stuff that he experienced first hand on the work-list. This morning, I called him back on how things were going and he mentioned that they've gone ahead and replaced the torque converter  . Hopefully, everything's cool and it'll drive nicely. Keeping my fingers crossed. But, i have to say that this dealer has been real good to me and even took care of many issues (under warranty) that may have possibly been caused by poor maintenance/care by the previous owner and this van wasn't even purchased at that dealership. And now, they have replaced the torque converter. Will drive it for a few days once i get the van back this evening and see how it feels. Will post an update. Good luck to all of the others having similar issues with their tranny's. Hopefully, your dealer will attend to the problems the same way, my dealer did for me.
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2007 Odyssey Vibration - torque converter replaced [gkrangan]
by gkrangan
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Oct 08, 2009 (4:24 pm)
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Replying to: gkrangan (Oct 08, 2009 9:15 am)
Update on the last post. Just got the van back from the dealer and it drives great!! . The transmission seems to be shifting smoothly after the torque converter replacement. The last time I was there, I had given then a printout of the TSB 07-28 (sound/noise during low acceleration). They ordered the parts for that also, along with the torque converter. When they did the tranny torque converter fix, they had to take out that exhaust and the heat-shield stuff out anyway, so he replaced it with the new parts based on the 07-28 TSB. Now, the vibrations aren't there and best of all, the ride is really nice and smooth at low-speeds. Now, I just hope it lasts like this as long as I own this thing.
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Re: 2007 Odyssey Vibration - torque converter replaced [gkrangan]
by vadakkan
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Oct 11, 2009 (6:57 pm)
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Replying to: gkrangan (Oct 08, 2009 4:24 pm)
Did any of you who had the judder/ torque issue get a letter from HONDA requesting to perform the Software update? I got a letter to do so and updated the software and now the judder is more. I could hardly notice the judder before the sofware update. Now the dealer told me to replace the torque converter.
Where can I find the TSB 07-28 .Could anybody provide a link?
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Re: Vibration and Slipping Solved!!!!!! [ranger80]
by bnun1
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Oct 12, 2009 (2:19 pm)
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Replying to: ranger80 (Apr 15, 2009 8:11 pm)
Ranger80, I just found out today that the torque converter in my 05 Odyssey has gone bad. I have about 67K miles on the van. How did your dealership handle your situation? Mine is telling me that other years have had issues with the torque converter, but not the 05. They are quoting me just under $2K to fix the problem.
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Re: 2007 Odyssey Vibration - torque converter replaced [vadakkan]
by gkrangan
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Oct 12, 2009 (3:48 pm)
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Replying to: vadakkan (Oct 11, 2009 6:57 pm)
No, I did not receive anything from Honda. Originally, I went to the Honda Dealer to get some other things fixed on a used 2007 that I had bought from elsewhere. That's when the service manager told me that there is a s/w update for the judder and it might be a good idea to get that applied. Once they did that, I started having the judder problems. I searched on the web, etc and found all of the TSBs. One thing led to another and I convinced them to get my torque converter replaced and they did it for me. Now it drives much better. Atleast the judder issue is gone.
Here's the link to the TSB for the judder issue:
http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/A09-053.PDF
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judder
by scottinky
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Oct 12, 2009 (4:00 pm)
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mine is going in wed. they flashed it at the last service and the judder is horrible.
called them saturday and got no argument from the service manager regarding replacing the torque converter. it is a rough ride all the way through 65mph
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Re: 2007 Odyssey Vibration - torque converter replaced [gkrangan]
by vadakkan
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Oct 12, 2009 (5:16 pm)
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Replying to: gkrangan (Oct 12, 2009 3:48 pm)
Thanks GK for the TSB. I picked up my vanat 7:00 pm after the torque convertor was replaced. It is much better now. I only drove 2-3 miles so far. I hope it will be OK. After replacing the trq convertor the Honda Tech noticed that the power steering pump had some issues and replaced it under warranty although I did not feel any problem with steering in the past.
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- #135 of 175
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got mine done last wed
by scottinky
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Oct 19, 2009 (9:51 am)
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it is better, but I still feel like it has a rough ride. It seriously is the worst riding
vehicle I think I have had. it is loud as hell on the hwy. I almost want to go
back to a big SUV for the smooth, quiet ride. comfort and quietness win over MPG.
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Re: got mine done last wed [scottinky]
by wertzee
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Oct 21, 2009 (7:12 pm)
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Replying to: scottinky (Oct 19, 2009 9:51 am)
I have been monitoring this thread for a long time, to make sure I had enough "ammunition" before going to Honda. My 07 Odyssey Touring van has had the judder problem since I bought it last year at 27k miles. I have been living with the issue all this time.
I am happy to report that I took it to Honda yesterday, they applied the update, drove it themselves, found that it was worse, then called me to tell me they would replace the torque converter.
Interestingly, I have also been experiencing the same issue outlined in TSB 07-028 with the exhaust heat shield, however, my vin was not in the range. But they checked it out and indeed I did have the problem. They fixed that as well. Believe it or not they were going to charge me for it, saying that it was a "body item" and technically was not covered. However, they decided to "good will" it and didn't charge me.
I couldn't be more thrilled. The van drives like it is brand new now.
Fortunately when I bought the van it came with the Honda extended warranty. So everything was covered.
This turned out to be easier than I thought it would be. I thought I would be having to argue with Honda and show them posts from this forum.
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