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#112 of 166 Re: Steering wheel vibrates when slowing down from 75 mph [tonton26] by joe06 Aug 19, 2009 (6:52 pm)
Replying to: tonton26 (Feb 12, 2008 8:38 pm) Bought used 2006 EX at 29600 miles. Identical problem as tonton26, obvious vibration of steering wheel when slowing down (applying the brakes) from 70mph. Vibration disappears at 60 mph and under. Also I can notice some vibration in the steering wheel even when cruising at 70 mph, more obvious when I release the gas pedal at this speed but less obvious than when braking. All this makes me think it may be something in the direction system, maybe a bad tie rod or a loose front end. My mechanic (not at Honda dealership) installed after-market rotors, both front and back, next day after I bought the car. When I took it to the dealer couple a days ago, they said the rotors are warped, but the car presented same vibration when I drove out of the dealer lot right after purchase. I should have taken it back next day to the dealer instead of my mechanic, but original rotors looked bad, I thought that might be the reason for the vibration and new rotors with my mechanic cost half of Honda's quote. I had all 4 wheels balanced during my visit with the dealer, but that didn't change a thing. I would appreciate any suggestion. Tonton26, did you fix your problem, do you have any updates?   Thanks Replies to this message: bigdadi118 (Aug 20, 2009 8:51 am) joe06 (Aug 20, 2009 3:40 pm)
#113 of 166 Re: Steering wheel vibrates when slowing down from 75 mph [joe06] by bigdadi118 Aug 20, 2009 (8:51 am)
Replying to: joe06 (Aug 19, 2009 6:52 pm) Nuts of 4 wheels should be torque-wrench tightened. Air gun is quick but easily overtightened makes the rotors warped. Replies to this message: joe06 (Aug 20, 2009 3:40 pm)
#114 of 166 Re: Steering wheel vibrates when slowing down from 75 mph [bigdadi118] by joe06 Aug 20, 2009 (3:40 pm)
Replying to: bigdadi118 (Aug 20, 2009 8:51 am) Thanks bibdady118!. You are saying that over tightening can cause the rotors to warp. Is that temporary, I mean if you tighten lug nuts at correct torque, vibration should go away? I also know that warped rotors will create vibration during braking at any speed and you will feel that both in the steering wheel and in the braking pedal. That might be my case, but I feel vibration ONLY in the steering and ONLY at high speeds. Dealer suggested to turn the rotors, but again they are new and I would like to check any other possibilities before that.
#115 of 166 Re: how bad is the vibration? [tsais] by mnodyssey Aug 21, 2009 (8:15 pm)
Replying to: tsais (Aug 14, 2009 10:13 am) just an update on the vibration. took it to the service department and retest drove with the service manager this week. he finally felt the judder at low speeds and the torque converter was replaced today. the van was really driving rough within the last week after the software update. instead of masking the judder, the update may have made things worse. the service manager stated that there were a couple of other odysseys in for torque converter replacement after they had the software update. they also replaced a bad ball joint, didn't realize the steering was so stiff compared to now.   needless to say, the van does drive much better and vibration is not as bad. i think the van has the potential to drive better but i guess we will live with what we have for now. just worried that the new torqui e converter will go out again within 30,000 miles. the service department i work was extremely helpful but i think they may have their hands tied by honda with some of these issues.
#116 of 166 07 Odyssey vibration after software update by claim5 Aug 25, 2009 (7:12 am)
Had mine in for normal service, asked them to rotate and balance tires. Took van to 60mph and touched the brakes, it was as if they put warped rotors on it! Sunday the van was fine, just a little vibration at 73 so I figured it needed balance, when I used brakes it was smooth as silk. Now the brakes shimmy as if they need full replacement. They did offer me a limited service for $120 where they would lube and clean the calipers, I've only got 26K miles and told them I'd be back in October for the 30K service and not to bother. Back in March the van was perfect, April oil change they inspected brakes and I got the 73mph vibration afterwords. Minor irritation. Yesterday they also did the "software upgrade" for the transmission. I suspect that they didn't torque the wheels properly, but also wonder if the software update could have done something? Taking back to dealer tomorrow, they know I'm not happy. I've got another trip next week taking daughter to college and will not drive over 1000 miles with this problem.
#117 of 166 Re: Steering wheel vibrates when slowing down from 75 mph [tonton26] by vanman20 Aug 27, 2009 (11:19 am)
Replying to: tonton26 (Feb 12, 2008 8:38 pm) I've had the vibration feeling in the steering wheel at highway speeds & while applying brakes. I own a 05 EX-L and over a course of about a year and a half going back and forth to the dealer I have replaced brakes frt & rr, three alignments, several tire rotations and not all of them done by Honda and none of that helped. It turned out to be the hydraulic motor mount. Ever time the van would go into economy mode, BAM I get the vibration at the time. I just could put the two together until coming back from a 11hr trip and would notice that when the eco light comes on so does the vibration. Just so happen that a Honda Rep was at my local dealership when I came to pick up the van and when I test drove it after they checked my brakes rebalanced my tires and said nothing was wrong, I got on the expressway and their it went I turned around and went back to the Honda store and complained to the svc manager and the Honda rep asked if he could test drive the van with me to try and duplicate the problem. He figured it out within a mile what the problem was, and told it's the hydraulic motor mount that is mounted to the firewall or close to it. $630 later she was running like a champ.   My advice for owners of model year 05 and newer when your econ light comes on take note of any vibration. I hope this helps someone out there because like I said this was over a year and half time span plus a lot of money spent on trail and error.
#118 of 166 Well, I had the dealer re-torque the wheels... by claim5 Aug 27, 2009 (2:58 pm)
And the braking vibration is still there, though seemingly less pronounced. I took it up to 80mph gradually, and the balance seems fine. BTW the ECO light comes on all the time, and I feel absolutely nothing different. Last month, up to St. Paul we got between 26-28 mpg at 75-80 with the air set at 68 so I know the eco is working (one week in northern Minnesota I averaged 31 mpg.) great. The only vibration I get now is when I brake from 75-60. It goes away below 60. I don't see how this could possibly be related to anything other than the rotors, but will keep an open mind because I didn't notice it until after the software update.   I'm just going to wait until I hit 30K and get all the brakes done at that time. Should be middle to end of Oct. Replies to this message: mnodyssey (Aug 27, 2009 7:11 pm) claim5 (Aug 29, 2009 2:03 pm)
#119 of 166 Re: Well, I had the dealer re-torque the wheels... [claim5] by mnodyssey Aug 27, 2009 (7:11 pm)
Replying to: claim5 (Aug 27, 2009 2:58 pm) claim5, i see you are located in mn, i just had the torque converter replaced at walser honda in burnsville. the low speed judders are gone but vibration during acceleration from 60 to 65 is still there. i need to get an oil change so i figured they can also inspect the motor mounts.   the software upgrade actually made the vibrations worse and that was the reason why the converter was replaced.   i noticed the ex-l and touring had issues with engine mount, anyone with an ex have the same issue?? not Replies to this message: claim5 (Aug 29, 2009 2:03 pm)
#120 of 166 Re: Well, I had the dealer re-torque the wheels... [mnodyssey] by claim5 Aug 29, 2009 (2:03 pm)
Replying to: mnodyssey (Aug 27, 2009 7:11 pm) mnodyssey, Sorry, I'm actually in the NW suburbs of Chicago, was up in MN several times this year starting in March. Daughter to start college in St. Paul next week. My dealer is Schaumburg Honda.   On an unhappier note, just yesterday and today, while gently accelerating from a stop the van judders between 2nd and 3rd gear. Not every time, rather rarely. That's totally new, and wonder if it could have been the software update that brought it about. I think it's up-shifting too early. The dealer is not going to be happy to see me again. Could they perhaps reset it to the original factory specs? It was working fine until after the software update.   Think perhaps I'll go ahead and take the kid up to St. Paul and call the dealer when I get back after Labor Day.   My initial intention was to buy a 2010 Odyssey EX-L (would be my 3rd) at end of October but after last years financial disaster I'll probably have to keep the 07 for another year.
#121 of 166 Re: how bad is the vibration? [tsais] by ramanim Sep 16, 2009 (9:15 am)
Replying to: tsais (Aug 14, 2009 10:13 am) I have a Odyssey 2007 EXL - ~33000 miles. We did the Honda recommended software update 3 weeks ago and since then the vibration/judder at low speeds is horrible. This consistently happens between 20-30mph. he dealer said this is a Torque Converter problem that increased with the software update and they are going to replace the Torque Converter. I see other posters with same issue after the software update - did chancing the Torque converted solve the problem? Luckily the warranty covers this.

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