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#723 of 1100 Re: 2001 Grand Cherokee 4X4 Transmission Problem [chats72]
Oct 08, 2010 (10:02 am)
Picked up my 2001 JGC from the dealership yesterday and drove about 25 miles.
It handled nicely. I was told to drive somewhat cautiously (like a new car) for the next 500 miles i.e. and avoid sudden accelerations. I was also told that after some time I ought to check the oil level - it might be low, as it fills the nooks and crannies.
Total Cost: $1065.00 Parts: $502.00 Labor: $562.00
Here's the breakdown and some analysis: (to nearest/lowest dollar)
Remove and replace Transducer and Solenoid:
Parts: (1) Transduce $165.00 (1) Solenoid 186.00
Remove Transmission Pan; Cleaned and resealed, and replace filter
and transmission oil.
Parts: (1) Filter Package 85.00 (6) Fluid ATF 65.00
My recollection of labor costs is $150.00 an hour.
OOOPS I just checked out the 'actual' cost of parts at MOPAR - Chrysler Parts
FILTR PKG TRANSMISSION $44.45 (MSRP) $0.00 (Core) Price: $29.32
SOLENOID TRANSMISSION $118.00 (MSRP) 0.00 (Core) Price 77.72
TRANSDUCE PRESSURE $78.75 (MSRP) 0.00 (Core) Price 51.98
(I had a hard time tracking down the Fluid cost)
Total from MOPAR: $159.02
I am leaving out the cost of shipping
Total from local Jeep Dealer: $437.57
Should I be surprised that there is a 275% markup of parts? In other words is it standard practice for dealerships to markup the prices of parts when used in repairs?
I look at this as Part One of a hard learning exercise.
Notes from my session at the dealer reports:
"The technician states left rear axle seal is leaking fluid Recommend to replace seal along with bearings. Parts and Labor $700.65 + Tax.
Recommendation to replace pads (fluid absorption) and resurface rotors.
Parts and Labor $470.00 + Tax"
That would be another $1170.00 'hit.'
Now, a month ago had my tires balanced and rotated at my regular mechanics shop. This was before the transmission debacle.
Wouldn't the mechanic have noticed something? My guess is 'maybe' and mark it up to sh_ _ happens. I would give the mechanic - a non-dealer, but a trusted practitioner - the benefit of the doubt here. He doesn't handle transmissions, but when I first reported the tranny problems to him, from the sound of his voice, I heard "be careful - out there".
Just to remind you, AAMCO said that it 'might' cost upwards of $2500. I guess that means it could also cost less .They wouldn't know until they ripped it apart. The advisor told me a rebuild tranny would take 5 - 7 business days and compared AAMCO service to the poor service I would get if I went to the dealer or dropped by a junk yard for an off the pile transmission. A salesman.
On that note, I told him I needed to get a second opinion, he said: "what can i do to get your business today? " I really had no answer to that, none - but I did have a strong sense that I was in the wrong place.
As I pulled out he offered to buy my car. He said the cost to him of the fix was lower than I would pay and that my car looked really good (flattery) Now that was the first really close-to-true statement he made. (But still flattery)
Remember the car has 81,000 +/- miles, it is garaged here in the Big Apple, and at least 40 - 50% of our driving is highway. We use the car to go camping often with the Boy Scouts and visiting family far from this maddening place.
My goal is to get 150,000 miles from this car. I know - it will take me another 8 or 9 years at current usage and newer cars would be far safer and more trouble free. someday, in a better economy, I might see the light and change my goals.
Thanks for opportunity to drop my story off here and pick your brains. So far you guys have been great.
Jeff in NYC
#724 of 1100 Re: 2001 Grand Cherokee 4X4 Transmission Problem [chats72]
Oct 08, 2010 (12:01 pm)
a the dealer has a huge markup i do all my own work and have 230000 miles on my 2000 jgc with 4.7 engine no major repairs water pump alternator radiator belts brakes normal stuff
i do use mobile 1 oil and change at 6000 miles or so still dont use any oil between changes so you should get lots miles yet
thanks for posting update
#725 of 1100 Re: 2001 Grand Cherokee 4X4 Transmission Problem [tuggajb]
Oct 08, 2010 (2:20 pm)
Is it possible for the oil leaking from the rear axle to pool under the car - say
I told the advisor I would work on the car next week - if he felt there was little
chance of a problem on the road. I have a 250 mile trip to take tomorrow. He gave
no guarantees but gave me no reason to put off my trip.
Thanks for your help.
#727 of 1100 Re: 2001 Grand Cherokee 4X4 Transmission Problem [chats72]
Oct 08, 2010 (5:51 pm)
its posable but is it by a wheel or in the middle of the jeep if in middle then pinion seal is leaking if by tire then wheel bearing seal
your regular mech should be able to change wheel bearing and seal
i also dont think trip should cause problem just brake safe dont tailgate
how big of pool?
#728 of 1100 Re: 2001 Grand Cherokee 4X4 Transmission Problem [tuggajb]
Oct 08, 2010 (9:43 pm)
Pool? I will let you know in a day or so.
#729 of 1100 Re: 2001 Grand Cherokee 4X4 Transmission Problem [chats72]
Oct 10, 2010 (10:34 am)
Sometimes I wish, wish, wish I lived in the states. Seems everybody gets ripped off there, and on USA manufactured motors. Maybe I should considder moving out there and setting up a shop giving value for money. Would that work in your country???
#730 of 1100 Re: 2001 Grand Cherokee 4X4 Transmission Problem [handsomerob]
Oct 10, 2010 (7:13 pm)
'handsomerob' if you live in Mexico, just stay where you are. The 'gringos' have enough money to pay for their car repairs but we in Mexico (and I'm British) need good affordable mechanics. At the beginning of this year I had my '98 GLC gearbox rebuilt for 5,000 pesos. What's that 450 USD? In a few months I'll have it drained,.cleaned and refilled with new filters for about 50 USD. We need you guys here, in Mexico.
#731 of 1100 2005 GC error codes P0700 and U0404
Oct 11, 2010 (1:59 pm)
51 K on this car and it just showed these codes..are the TCM or Shifter Bezel Assy covered under 7/70 ? Its runing fine NOW but..
#732 of 1100 2001 Jeep GC Laredo trans problems 42re
Oct 12, 2010 (3:15 pm)
I have a 42re trans (4x2).
My previous trans would always pull out in 2nd gear shifting regular thru the rest. Rarely did it pull out in 1st gear. Eventually the trans went while on the highway. Vehicle trans shifted all over the place.
I replaced my trans (keeping the old wiring) and found that it would not shift out of 1st gear. The kicker is that there is NO engine light on...... NOR did it produce any codes from my OBD2 scanner.
I proceeded to unplug the speed sensor wire, run the engine. I then received an engine light and a fault code. I then erased the code(s). I then proceeded to do (1 at a time) the same to the governor wire connector/ neutral safety switch/TCM relay and the other 2 fuses. All produced the same effect. Engine light on with a fault code. i then erased them.
Test drove the vehicle 6 blocks and it still didn't produce a fault or engine light.
Problem...... It still doesn't want to shift out of 1st gear.
Any help would be appreciated.