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Jeep Grand Cherokee Transmission Problems

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Re: Transmission Shifting Problems [nneal] by xelvis66x
Oct 31, 2009 (3:30 pm)
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Replying to: nneal (Oct 31, 2009 2:42 pm)

I played with all the pluggs and they all look ok. I think the only one that affects the tranny is the TPS and if i unplug it it runs funny. My brother said the TCM(tranny control module) may be in a limp home mode if that is an option. if this is possible do you think a senser made this happen and it will correct itself or can you reset it.
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Re: Transmission Shifting Problems [xelvis66x] by nneal
Oct 31, 2009 (6:51 pm)
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Replying to: xelvis66x (Oct 31, 2009 3:30 pm)

What model transmission do you have? I found this diagnostic trouble code method on link title and didn't know if this method would give any different information from what your scanner does.
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Re: Transmission Shifting Problems [nneal] by xelvis66x
Nov 01, 2009 (12:59 pm)
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Replying to: nneal (Oct 31, 2009 6:51 pm)

I think the Transmission is a 42RE or 46RH. I got the numbers off the tranny but they don't tell me nothing without a chart. I tried the link you gave me and it gave a code 16 for transmission temperture sensor. While i was counting the OD button flashes the check engine light was flashing for about 28 flashes. Do you know what that whould mean. thank you!
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Re: Transmission Shifting Problems [xelvis66x] by xelvis66x
Nov 01, 2009 (3:25 pm)
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Replying to: xelvis66x (Nov 01, 2009 12:59 pm)

I figured out that that flashes are codes and the first is 12 batter connection input to PCM (which is nothing), then 24 TPS voltage high or low test TPS, 14 manifold absolute pressure sensor voltage too high or low, 13 indicates problem with manifold absolute pressure sensor vacuum source. and now the OD button flashes 55 for end of message. I also played with the MAP sensor on the firewall and now its trying to shift for more power, i'm thinking that sensor may be bad or bad connection.
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Re: Transmission Shifting Problems [xelvis66x] by nneal
Nov 01, 2009 (5:58 pm)
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Replying to: xelvis66x (Nov 01, 2009 3:25 pm)

Hopefully you might be on to something. Judging from your vehicle description and this page (link title), it looks as if your tranny is the 42RE. A good short description can be found here at link title. The manual can be viewed at link title.
 
I had a previous experience earlier this year where my TPS was affecting shifting and engine performance on my 98 Cherokee with 198,000 miles. Replacing the TPS only "fixed" it about 2 days. In the end, it wasn't the TPS, but the female connector plug going to the TPS. The weight of the wire harness on the connector had weakened the grip of the connector (female) prongs. Only after I disassembled it and squeezed the prongs tighter did it work. Initially I thought I was dealing with a broken wire, because moving the wire harness would make it act up, only to find out later the connector itself was the culprit.
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Re: Transmission Shifting Problems [nneal] by xelvis66x
Nov 02, 2009 (6:41 pm)
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Replying to: nneal (Nov 01, 2009 5:58 pm)

I dropped the pan this evening and it is a 42RE because the links said about a few parts on that tranny and me and my brother found those parts, plus it's a four speed w/ OD. When I dropped the pan a few shaving were there but i'm convinced it's one of the sensors I unpluggedduring the head job.
 
Today I found a plug inside that was mentioned in that link which is for the tranny and to me it looks fine but i'll have to have my brother look at the reading. Tomarrow when I drive it to school I'm going to see what codes come on the scanner, i had some MAP sensors that were from some GM cars which is what is used on some jeeps, and i'm going to see if the MAP code goes away.
 
I also will take that TPS plug apart again and make the female end tighter.
Thank you this is alot of help!
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Re: Transmission Shifting Problems [nneal] by xelvis66x
Nov 03, 2009 (6:48 pm)
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Replying to: nneal (Nov 01, 2009 5:58 pm)

I now have no codes, the MAP code is gone and the TPS I tighten the female ends and when I went down the road it tried to downshift, but went back to what it was doing before, The TPS checked out ok on the meter, but when I play around there it tries to work right?
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Re: Transmission Shifting Problems [xelvis66x] by nneal
Nov 04, 2009 (4:14 am)
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Replying to: xelvis66x (Nov 03, 2009 6:48 pm)

When I had the bad TPS connection, wiggling the wires going into the TPS connector while the vehicle was idling would make it act up and the engine would go up or down in RPM's. That's how I discovered the location where it was bad. Now that I fixed it, no matter how much I wiggle the wires, the engine doesn't change.
 
  One thing I was unaware of while looking at the Transmission manual, was how close the adjustment on the Throttle Valve cable is supposed to be. If this applies to your vehicle (if you're not aware of it), look at page 21 - 6 in the manual, They want it "within 1 mm (0.039 in.) in either direction" . The total tolerance they allow you is a hair over 1/16" of an inch! I wasn't used to Throttle Cable adjustments using tolerances that close. On a previous GM vehicle I had, they said to push the cable back into the bracket, then push on the accelerator to the floor bringing it back out and resetting it. I know using this method I wasn't getting tolerances they call for in the transmission manual here. The 42RE Tranny manual shows the
adjustment on page 21 - 44.
 
  Let us know if you discover anything more.
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Re: 2000 laredo 4.0 tranny problem [kidrock] by kalanibobb
Nov 04, 2009 (6:24 am)
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Replying to: kidrock (Jan 11, 2009 12:11 pm)

My girlfriend is having the same exact problem with her car. While she is driving the car shifts into neutral and all the dashboard gear lights light up. Did you find a solution to this problem?
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2005 Grand Cherokee shifts to neutral while driving by kalanibobb
Nov 04, 2009 (6:26 am)
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My girlfriend has a 2005 Grand Cherokee Laredo, and while she is driving she says the car will occasionally shift into neutral and all the dashboard gear shift lights will light up. The check engine light will also come on periodically. Does anyone have any idea what might be causing this?

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