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#1022 of 1101 Re: 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee [brn2skifst]
Sep 30, 2012 (6:09 am)
I have a 2011 with the same configuration and mine does that 10x. It started with a shudder during acceleration but has since moved on to a shudder when just driving at a constant speed over 80kmh (50mph).
The dealer HAS admitted the problem but indicated there is nothing they can do yet as Chrysler has yet to release a fix.
They mentioned to me it was the torque converter. Said that when the vehicle switches from "ECO" (4 cylinder) back to 8, the torque converter is searching for what to do and is applying then releasing, applying then releasing, almost like a clutch.
This is what is causing the shudder.
I call BS and and asked them to replace it but they're saying the new version of the vehicle is doing the exact same thing so they wont replace it.
Only thing to do is put a lot of pressure of Chrysler.
#1023 of 1101 Re: 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee [gcat1]
Sep 30, 2012 (6:42 am)
I'm having the exact same issue and I'm just about at my wits end. Dealer is saying the same thing that it's the torque converter and that there is no fix for it yet.
They also gave me the BS line of driving another one of the lot and seeing that it does the same thing. Well I drove the owner of the dealerships GC and if mine drove like his did, I wouldn't be complaining.
Point being; seems like every GC has a slight shudder while the engine changes from ECO (4 cylinder) back to 8. The torque converter engages and disengages. But I think there are varying degrees and I can tell you that mine is almost un-drivable now as its constant from 80kmh (50mph) and up.
I think everyone with this issue needs to put a lot of pressure on Chrysler and maybe if we all talk with the same person, team or group it might help.
#1024 of 1101 Re: 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee [jeremy77]
Sep 30, 2012 (9:11 am)
On my last visit to the dealer which was Chrysler's last attempt to fix it, I had the Service Manager at my dealer drive it. He, of course, would not come out and admit there was a problem but told me that they have done all available TSB's and that I could drive it in 6th or "tow-haul" (now why would he tell me that if there was no problem?) I also mentioned the update due in February and he acknowledged that also...hmmm. I then got back on the phone with the Chrysler Rep and told him about the test drive. During my conversation with him he acknowledged the term "FISHBITE" which is what it is being called because of the tugging feeling the problem gives you. He also acknowledged that the software to hopefully rectify it is written but it is going through tests and won't be out until Feb? I filed the paperwork for a NJ lemon law case and am waiting to hear back from them now. If you have the problem, drive it in 6th until the software comes out. We should not have to do that with a brand new $46k vehicle though.
#1025 of 1101 Re: 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee [brn2skifst]
Oct 01, 2012 (8:58 am)
I'm in Ontario and we don't have lemon laws here in Canada. I'm searching for an equivalent.
That said, I just want my car to run the way it was advertised and not have to take legal action against an Automotive giant..
I hope that patch that's due to come out in February works but doubt it very much.
#1026 of 1101 Re: 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee [jeremy77]
Oct 01, 2012 (1:09 pm)
The lemon laws were not an option for us down here because we waited too long. We kept hoping things would get better for our Jeep as well because we loved the car when it was running. Unfortunately the JGC's either seem to be really good or really bad. Hate to see anyone else go through the he** we did with Chrysler. The company refuses to take responsibility for defective vehicles, especially those pre-bankruptcy.
#1028 of 1101 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trans shifting problem
Oct 18, 2012 (7:15 am)
I have a 1996 Grand Cherokee Limited with the 5.2 V8 and 4 speed automatic transmission. This vehicle has been great for me and trouble free, until this past Monday.
I live in PA and had to drive up a road which included a 3 mile drive up a mountain, and down the other side. i noticed while climbing the mountain the rpms were at 3 grand and the trans did not shift up out of 2nd gear. i had reached 55 mph and it should have shifted to 3rd gear or Drive. i disengaged the overdrive and let off the gas then it shifted. I thought i must be low on fluid. so i was careful coming down the other side of the mountain highway and checked the fluid. it appeared low as i did not see fluid on the dipstick. i added fluid and continued on my way to Allentown where my daughter was going for surgery. i noticed that every time i came a stop the transmission would again not shift out of 2nd gear unless i let off the gas, or shifted to neutral then back to drive. if i pulled out very slowly from a stop it would shift some of the time.
when we reached the hospital my son -n-law and i checked the fluid again and it again appeared low. the fluid is clean and not brown, and there is no burnt smell. we again added fluid. and left it at that. when my daughter was out of surgery and okay i decided to head home, and her husband would stay with her until her discharge the next day. ( They had followed me in their own car). Again at first the trans shifted normally. then the same symptom started again. i made it home by repeatedly shifting to neutral then back to drive and the trans would shift in to higher gear, until i came to a stop again.
when i got home, i again checked the fluid, and again it appeared low. so stupid me, i again added fluid. I did not run the jeep again this day, but noticed a few hours later that i had a nice leak of trans fluid that appears to be coming from between the trans tail shaft, and the transfer case. the fluid is clean and un-burnt. i checked the fluid level and found it was way over filled. since i have an external cooler i was able to drain away the extra fluid. with the fluid level showing normal, with the trans hot in neutral. the leak appears to have stopped as i had wiped off the area where it had been dripping and placed cardboard underneath, and only a few residual drops were there. i test drove the jeep again. and again the same symptom of not shifting to high gear appeared.
I was checking forums here and some are saying it is a problem with the throttle position sensor, i have a new one ordered and will replace it. i am hoping this is the problem. I need and would greatly appreciate any and all input from you jeep guys and gals, as although i have mechanic experience, i am not up to speed on these newer systems of sensors and relays controlling transmissions. i am retired / disabled with spine problems so i am on a fixed income, and i can only do minor work myself. Please post if any of you can offer any advice or help. God Bless and Thank You!!
#1029 of 1101 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trans shifting problem
Oct 18, 2012 (9:30 am)
This is an update to my prior post. today 10/18/12, i went to get gas and to try a bottle of K&W Trans X. i drove the six miles to the NAPA store and the shifting problem seemed to have gone away.
They were out of the small bottles of Trans X and not wanting another episode of over filling, i decided to return home. By now the jeep was fully warmed up. and sure enough it started again, only this time i no longer had second or drive.
When i pulled over to the shoulder and put it in park for a minute or two, i could again go with first second and drive, with drive fading out and it beginning to slip until i manually shifted into second.
I noted that the problem was at worst when the overdrive was engaged. so i kept the overdrive off. this helped a little but i ended up making it back home using only first gear.
I again checked the fluid. it is right at the full mark and a pretty pinkish purple. no smell of burned fluid, no brown fluid. I am totally lost at this point. ANY HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!
#1031 of 1101 Re: 2003 grand cherokee shift issues [davides8]
Oct 26, 2012 (3:48 pm)
I have had a similar problem with my Jeep Laredo CDR 2003 since March 2012 and to date have not been able to fix it. Since March the vehicle has been back to Jeep 4 time with the same problem of going into limp mode. Each time they have fiddled with it and all is OK for about 4 - 6 weeks. At this time it is still at jeep and they inform me that it requires: Valve body & TCM all up including labour $7,276.05. They say that the codes come back as supply voltage to the TCM so I don't understand why tehy need to replace these parts.
Do you think that I may also have a grounding problem?
Hope you can help.