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Cadillac DeVille oil usage

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oil usage by lagunshy
Dec 09, 2006 (6:40 am)
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I own a 2002 deville and my expeiance with oil consumption has been a nightmare. I have 40000 mi. on my caddy and have been using 3 quarts plus in less than 3000 miles. I could write 8 pages of stuff to you all but here is the end results. 2002 and several other caddy's had a test engine installed. No you wont see any oil on your floor nor will you see an blue oil trail out of your exhast unless you floor it. My caddy is at the dealer as I speak getting new pistons and rings. I went through a 3000 mile oil consumption test and finally caddilac said to bring it in. there is a bulletin on this vehicle but not a recall. I might add that I am also out of warrentee and caddilac is installing this for free and gave me a loaner. Do not back down when you are messing with your dealer about this! In my eyes caddilac has owned responsibility and there needs to be a recall for us! besides the stress that I have went through I feel caddy is doing right.
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Re: oil usage [lagunshy] by sls002
Dec 11, 2006 (8:28 am)
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Replying to: lagunshy (Dec 09, 2006 6:40 am)

I have a 2002 Seville, with the base engine (275 horsepower). I have been using Mobile 1 synthetic oil after about 30,000 miles. I have 53,000 miles now and use a quart every 2000 miles. The computer lets me go about 10,000 miles between changes.
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Re: oil usage [lagunshy] by fun4u
Jan 27, 2007 (9:45 pm)
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Replying to: lagunshy (Dec 09, 2006 6:40 am)

I own a 2001 DHS with Northstar which has had excessive oil consumption sinse about 30k miles. Carbon was flushed by dealer under warranty, and consuption has been monitored by dealer per GM requirement. At current 66k engine oil consumption is now back at about 1 qt per 1k. Since car is no longer under warranty, dealer wants nearly $2,000 to perform same carbon flush job. GM refusing to cover this previous condition under warranty.
 
You referrred to a service bulletin on this excess oil consumption. Can you provide some details on bulletin so I can pass it on to dealer? Did you need to contact GM or Cadallac Division directly to get action?
 
Did the latest service cure your problem, or just delay it.
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Re: oil usage [sls002] by lagunshy
Jan 28, 2007 (7:35 am)
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Replying to: sls002 (Dec 11, 2006 8:28 am)

this is typical for our cad the end result for me was a complete engine rebuild and cad. did end up paying for it all including rental and sir i was out of warranty so do not let them blow smoke at you the 800# is in the back of your manual
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Re: oil usage [fun4u] by lagunshy
Jan 28, 2007 (7:45 am)
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Replying to: fun4u (Jan 27, 2007 9:45 pm)

sir do not go for that. believe me i have reserched this and cad did pay for mine. i too was out of warranty and i fought for 3 months to get this done.i contacted cad. from the 800# in my manual and this created some grief for the dealer. please do not back down. cad. admitted to this being thier prob. i too went though the oil consumption test but they bypassed the flush and went to the complete rebuild and gave me a loaner. your dealer as mine don't want to do the ground work for this problem and they actually dont have to pay a dime. the differance between a bulliten and a recall is there aren't enough of us pressing the issue. hope this helps you.
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Re: oil usage [fun4u] by lagunshy
Jan 28, 2007 (7:47 am)
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Replying to: fun4u (Jan 27, 2007 9:45 pm)

and yes at this point it fixed the problem
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Re: oil usage [lagunshy] by fun4u
Jan 28, 2007 (11:57 am)
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Replying to: lagunshy (Jan 28, 2007 7:45 am)

Thanx for the background and for the encouragement. I'll start organizing my assault on Cadillac with service records and experiences, then make the call.
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Oil usage/carbon buildup by richw5
Jan 29, 2007 (1:51 pm)
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The quick and easy method of "getting the carbon out" is a few applications of "WOT".
 
Start from a dead stop or when rolling and apply your right foot to the accelerator. When you hit 70 mph, slow down and begin the process a few more times until the carbob stops coming out of the exhaust. Yes, WOT is "wide open throttle" and was recommended by one of the Northstar engineers on a Cadillac information web site.
 
It worked on my '99 STS and even lowered the oil usage back to specs. Besides that, it's a lot of fun.
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Re: Oil usage/carbon buildup [richw5] by geo9
Jan 29, 2007 (5:10 pm)
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Replying to: richw5 (Jan 29, 2007 1:51 pm)

My 96 used to suck down 1 qt. or so every 1000 miles.
I went thru the ringer at the dealer with the consumption
tests and this and that. Never smoked or leaked either.
I learned to live with it especially after reading other
N-star owners posts here or on several Caddy only sites.
 
That car gave me over 125k miles and 6 years of problem
free ownership when I traded it for my 03 (which is better
and uses 1/2 quart every 3000 miles !
My 90 4.9? 4.5? DeVille never used a drop of oil between
changes and also was troublefree and traded at around
100k plus miles for the 96............
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Re: Oil usage/carbon buildup [richw5] by bolivar
Jan 29, 2007 (11:17 pm)
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Replying to: richw5 (Jan 29, 2007 1:51 pm)

I agree.
 
'Puttering around' in a Northstar will carbon up the rings, stick them, and allow oil blowby.
 
From a rolling start, floor it. I recommend running above 70mph. At 70mph, it's probably just shifting out of second. Run it up and allow to coast down several time. If you have the nerve to glance in the rear view mirror, you will probably see a lot of black smoke the first time or two you open it up.
 
Do this every month or so. Your oil consumption will drop.

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