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New Yaris Problem - A Lemon?

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Re: Toyota Lemons [crazedcommuter] by mylantageorgia
Aug 12, 2009 (9:05 pm)
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Replying to: crazedcommuter (Feb 18, 2008 7:01 am)

your full of crap also. just like ford just because they use to have a good reputation for cars and trucks and that's how they still sell them just by their old reputation. but look in the paper more people are getting rid of their fords then any other.
just because toyota has a good reputation does not mean one can't ever be a lemon.
they do slip by.
Pride is no longer an issue for car companies. It's all about money, money, greed and more money.
and don't care who they mess over. just MONEY!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: New Yaris Problem - A Lemon? [bambesi] by thecatman
Aug 31, 2009 (12:57 pm)
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Replying to: bambesi (Dec 08, 2006 6:56 am)

Bambesi,
 
What ever became of your problem? I recently purchase a 09 Yaris hatchback and have a simular complaint. About half the time I let off the gas to cruise up to a stop sign the car seems to downshift or have the brakes applied. This may save on the brakes but it seems like this would lower your gas MPG if you have to keep on the gas until you're close enough to let of and cruise. What really conserns me is that this only happens about half the time -- usually on a hot day after the car is warmed up. You can feel it kick down around 40 mph and then kick up when you reach about 20mph.
 
BTW -- that seems to be the speed where the resistance stops and you can feel it kick back into high gear -- yet I'm sure it's not really doing that. I have an automatic and I made sure it is in D when I test this out. I can duplicate the problem at 25mph but again, it only does it half the time and more so when the car is warmed up. Is this really normal for a Yaris? Won't this decrease my MPG?
 
Thaanks.
#67 of 81
Re: New Yaris Problem - A Lemon? [thecatman] by lhanson
Sep 01, 2009 (10:45 am)
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Replying to: thecatman (Aug 31, 2009 12:57 pm)

What kind of gas mileage are you getting and what kind of driving do you do? If you are not meeting the window sticker mileage you may have a problem.
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Re: New Yaris Problem - A Lemon? [lhanson] by thecatman
Sep 01, 2009 (12:28 pm)
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Replying to: lhanson (Sep 01, 2009 10:45 am)

My last tankful I got 35.321 MPG. My MPG has been going down about 1 mile per fill up since I got the car. It started at 36.5, went up to 37.8, and since then has dropped. I usually fill-up when it reaches the last bar so I can compare apples to apples but haven''t been able to fill-up at the same station each time. I've been traveling lately and have had to use different stations.
 
My Yaris is rated at 29-35MPG with some people getting 29-41 MPG. I drive like an old lady because I want to get the best gas mileage I can. About 90% of my driving in on the highway at 55-60 mph. I use the cruise (not factory -- purchased from another company) all the time to save gas. Even then it doesn't feel like it's in top gear even though I have it in "D".
 
While my gas mileage has dropped since I got the car the drag sensation has gotten more pronounced. If I pull out of my driveway and get my car up to 25mph it will drop to 20 in 5 seconds and that's going downhill. Then around 20mph it feels like the car kicks up into a higher gear.
 
As I said, this only happens half the time, more so when the car is warm or it's a warm day. It was cool this morning and I didn't have any problems coasting. I talked to another Yaris and they don't have this problem. I would feel better if this happened all the time, but as I said it doesn't. And I'm use to letting off the gas half a mile from a light and coasting without having to hit the gas again. But this car drops speed like a rock when whatever it's doing kicks in.
 
I'm dropping it off at the dealers tonight to see what he can make of it. Apparently I'm the only Yaris owner who has complained about this. Maybe I coast while others keep up the speed until they are on top of the light or stop sign.
 
Thanks for your reply
#69 of 81
Re: New Yaris Problem - A Lemon? [thecatman] by lhanson
Sep 02, 2009 (7:49 am)
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Replying to: thecatman (Sep 01, 2009 12:28 pm)

I am wondering if your problem might be connected with the after market cruise control that you had installed. I have been seriously considering having cruise control installed on my 2007 Yaris hatchback, but I have read that a lot of people have had major problems including being left stranded along side of the road. 37 or 38 MPG is about what I get with my car in town or on the highway.
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Re: New Yaris Problem - A Lemon? [lhanson] by thecatman
Sep 02, 2009 (9:00 am)
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Replying to: lhanson (Sep 02, 2009 7:49 am)

The problem -- if it is a problem -- was happening before I had the cruise installed. So it's not tied to the after market cruise. I haven't had any problems with this product as of yet -- but I haven't been on any long trips.
 
The problem wasn't so bad yesterday before I dropped it of at the dealer. It seemed that if the day is hot, I tend to notice the dragging more. Hopefully the dealer will feel the same problem and tell me what it going on.
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Re: New Yaris Problem - A Lemon? [thecatman] by lhanson
Sep 04, 2009 (8:21 am)
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Replying to: thecatman (Sep 02, 2009 9:00 am)

Let us know what happens and give more information on the cruise control after you have had a chance to use it more.
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Re: New Yaris Problem - A Lemon? [lhanson] by thecatman
Sep 04, 2009 (10:28 am)
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Replying to: lhanson (Sep 04, 2009 8:21 am)

I got my car back and the dealer said it's normal -- which I don't buy. Basicly, the problem is where the gear shifts. If I'm going 40 and let off the gas, the computer has to decide if it should downshift or not. Half the time it does and the other half it doesn't. I explained that downshifting would waste gas, not save it and it should do this all the time if it was normal. Not sure what to do next. It happens more when the day is warmer, as if the computer is getting overheated. Also, I don't believe it's a gear shifting since I've moved it from D to "3" and can feel it downshift. It's almost more like a engine gearing down or something. I'll have to see if this clears up when I reach 5,000 miles
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Re: New Yaris Problem - A Lemon? [thecatman] by lhanson
Sep 04, 2009 (1:13 pm)
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Replying to: thecatman (Sep 04, 2009 10:28 am)

Maybe you could test drive another one and see if it does the same thing.
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Re: New Yaris Problem - A Lemon? [lhanson] by phllbit
Sep 06, 2009 (7:56 am)
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Replying to: lhanson (Sep 02, 2009 7:49 am)

Do not buy an after market cruise control for the yaris. Toyota themselves told me that the yaris is not pre wired for the cruise control unit and this does not take into account the fact that the unit is made by a 3rd party company called Rostra, it needs to be spliced into the harness which is connected to the throttle sensor.
 
On my yaris, the cruise gave out a surge due to incorect voltage whch blew the throttle sensor and you guessed, the damn thing broke down! This condition will always exist as I said before, the yaris is not wired for this. If you were to purchase a yaris with the 'convenience' package that includes the proper cruise control unit fiited by toyota at the factory with the proper wiring then you should not have any problems but do not fit the aftermarket cruise control it will seriously mess up your car if not invalidate any warranty you may have.
 
As for the rough driving, the automatic yaris is programmed to downshift when going downhill as an emmission control feature, it's very annoying but that's the way it is. As far as I am concerned, there should be no sudden downshifting except maybe at very low speed. If anything like that is happening, get rid of it and get a Nissan or a Mazda.

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