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Re: New Yaris Problem - A Lemon? [jarvis1]
by bambesi
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Dec 19, 2006 (5:51 am)
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Replying to: jarvis1 (Dec 18, 2006 1:38 pm)
HI: I had to laugh - because, no it isn't a dumb question at all - I actually did drive it in that 3 position for a while after I first got it because I wasn't used to that whole gear set-up. Then I realized that it goes all the way to the right to be in D. So your question is right on the money for me... I have to go back and read the post after yours... something about this is normal for Toyotas? Thanks for posting!
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Re: hold up [nippononly]
by bambesi
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Dec 19, 2006 (5:54 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Dec 18, 2006 6:47 pm)
Hi: Thanks for the post. You are sort of describing my issue and it does ease my mind a bit - at least about the high reving in the mornings. But the engine braking feel thing happens when I am not going downhill. I can be on a very flat stretch or even uphill and if I try to let the car drift after taking my foot off the accelerator, that is when I get this feeling like the engine just went through sludge and slowed down too quickly. And sometimes it feels like it surges back up again, all before I have even touched the accelerator again. Do you think this is normal? And do you think if I was to take it in, I would describe this as an engine issue or tranny issue? (Or just live with it!) I have 1200 miles now on it. Thanks so much!! These messages are a huge help to me. I honestly deeply appreciate them all!
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Re: hold up [bambesi]
by nippononly
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Dec 19, 2006 (7:25 am)
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Replying to: bambesi (Dec 19, 2006 5:54 am)
It is kind of hard for me to get a sense of what your car is doing from your description. Another emissions thing (which affects the manual trans folks more than the auto trans folks) is that the revs drop very slowly after you let off the accelerator, and if the computer finds that NOx emissions have gone too high, it could rev the engine back up a little to reduce them, I suppose. That MIGHT be what you are experiencing?
Either way, I would say it is an engine behavior, not a transmission problem. If it is bothering you and you can figure out how to make it happen at will, I would go in to the dealer, get a ride-along with a mechanic, and demonstrate it. They should be able to tell you whether it is normal or not.
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Re: hold up [nippononly]
by bambesi
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Dec 20, 2006 (5:18 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Dec 19, 2006 7:25 am)
Hi: Thanks! Maybe this IS the issue. Either way, I appreciate your ideas because this gives me something to suggest to the technician when I take it in. I REALLY appreciate it!
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Re: hold up [nippononly]
by hendd
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Dec 20, 2006 (11:48 am)
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Replying to: nippononly (Dec 18, 2006 6:47 pm)
The 'behavior' of my car does match 1 and 2. I'm very thankful for this info. I'm a newby to all of this. Wish I would have known it from the beginning so I didn't worry about having a defect.  So it sounds like bambesi your car troubles may be a little different...? I hope you figure it out. And the dealer I bought mine from warned me about the 3 D gear shift (which side). I take it you didn't!
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Shifting
by 41magmag41
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Jul 06, 2007 (10:30 am)
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Shifting
by 41magmag41
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Jul 06, 2007 (10:34 am)
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Glad to see someone else feels the downshift happen when going down a hill. I think its normal for the computer controled tranny to do this, if it continues to bother me I'll end up having the dealer take a look at it at the first oil change. As far as the failure to shift when cold, I've been told that until the tranny warms up to a certain temp. it will not shift into overdrive thus the reving up when cold. Again I was told by the dealer its an emissions thing.
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Re: Shifting [41magmag41]
by lucynethel
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Jul 07, 2007 (3:04 pm)
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Replying to: 41magmag41 (Jul 06, 2007 10:34 am)
You are feeling "FUZZY LOGIC". It also saves your brakes and is a GOOD thing....
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Re: New Yaris Problem - A Lemon? [bambesi]
by liam3
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Dec 18, 2007 (8:03 pm)
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Replying to: bambesi (Dec 08, 2006 6:56 am)
Hello, I bought a toyota Yarris YRX automatic in March of this year and I think that from what you describe I have a similar problem. The car drives like a little beauty when the engine is under load but when going down hill or even on a zero gradient it is almost as if a crude type of cruise control comes into play and the engine revs will drop by about 200rpm, the car will hesitate as the engine is put into the braking mode and then the revs will jump back up again and the "braking effect" disappears. It will then hold back again and the whole cylce continues. It is just as if I am playing with the accelerator when in fact my right foot is perfectly still. I have had the car back to the Toyota dealer 3 times and they can't find anything wrong with it and advise me that this is the first complaint of this type that Toyota have had with the Yarris. The problem is just about driving me crazy. Has anyone else out there had this problem and what was the fix?
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Re: New Yaris Problem - A Lemon? [liam3]
by caferacer1000
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Jan 16, 2008 (2:28 pm)
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Replying to: liam3 (Dec 18, 2007 8:03 pm)
OK. You guys have hit the nail directly on the head. I bought a 2008 Yaris Liftback Automatic in Dec., 2007 and have the EXACT SAME issues. Do I have a solution? Of course not. What I do have is the Official Toyota Line (by proxy of their dealer, Kenny Kent Toyota in Evansville, IN) There is nothing wrong with your car. The Yaris is going to buck, surge and hunt gears because....are you ready?.....We, as citizens, don't pay enough attention to what our Congress is doing and allow them to pass restrictive emissions standards that Toyota (by their inability to create a car that runs on US emissions standards or can be modified to run better) is incapable of meeting without building a car that runs like my Yaris. This is from the shop foreman at the above mentioned dealership. So.....your car is NORMAL. It's our nasty government. Never mind the bucking and surging. You can either suck it up or your friendly Toyota dealer will offer you a $1600.00 loss on your investment to trade to something different. Sounds a lot like Circuit City offering a TV for $299.99 only to get you to spend more once you realize what a steaming pile it is. We all know how well Circuit City is doing, right? Anyway, having come from a 2001 ECHO (which ran perfectly so I gave it to my college bound son for Christmas) I can honestly say that the Yaris is MAJOR step back in drivability. Hell, the '75 Vega I used to tow a race motorcycle around with was smoother. We'll see what arbitration accomplishes.
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