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#115 of 151 I'm puzzle and so is the dealer
Dec 31, 2011 (4:53 pm)
When putting my cruise on going up a hill at times, the engine starts to rev up, the 2009 escape doesn't go any faster, the rpms go up to 4000 to 5000 and won't get out of it until I put the escape back into park. I tried putting it into neutral when on a busy highway and then back into drive but nothing worked. I have taken it in to the dealer 2 times and they can't find anything. They questioned why I put it in neutral and I said to try and get the rpms down since my vehicle never goes over 3000 rpm even when I step on it. This time, I didn't take the cruise off, I left it go on and on for about three miles and finally the check engine light came on. Even when I slowed down to exit the interstate, the rpms didn't move like they should. I left the cruise off the hour ride home and drove 60 miles and hour without any problems until after I left my sister off, putting the vehicle into drive, it jerked. I only live three blocks from her with a 25 mph speed limit. I stepped on the gas, rpms went way up again and I had to lift off the gas in order for it to shift, then pulling into my drive it didn't want to move much but I did get it into the garage. Anyone else had this problem?????
#116 of 151 Re: 2008 Transmission gone--70 K miles [Jordan]
Jan 01, 2012 (11:49 am)
Toyota introduced a new "real time" ATF line pressure control technique in the early RX300 models. The new design yielded a quite significant improvement in FE but (apparently) inadvertently included a very serious design flaw. The FE gain was great enough that the new design was widely adopted before the design flaw was publicly exposed, "discovered".
Toyota, after several attempts at fixing the flaw, finally settled on DBW(RX330) as a final fix. Prevent the engine from rising in torque until a re-acceleration downshift could be accomplished/completed.
The suggestion of opting for AWD, F/awd, is a non-starter.
The use of the brakes for traction control on FWD provides a serious level of safety but with a TON of stress on the driveline components with both engine drive and braking engaged simultaneously. Basically the reason the engine is also INSTANTLY dethrottled simultaneous with braking actuation.
It is very well know that have both front and rear drives engaged simultaneously on tractive surfaces is detrimental to driveline component life cycles. While always of relatively short duration, front AND rear drives only used under low speed acceleration, in the long term that always adds up to premature driveline component failure.
So adding F/awd, and the associated inadvertent additional driveline stress, to an already flawed transaxle design only exacerbates the failure rate. Look at the transaxle failure rate for early F/awd RX300, the F/awd version of the Escape/Mariner, and the entire life period of the MDX as examples.
#117 of 151 Re: I'm puzzle and so is the dealer [fedup27]
Jan 01, 2012 (11:59 am)
Why would you engage the cruise on an uphill run?
For myself I would be initially engaging
My practice in that case, more often practice, is to disallow the engagement of OD.
My guess is that one of the clutches involved in the highest non-OD gear selection is marginal and begins slipping with a sudden application and simultaneous need for reasonable high torque transfer.
#118 of 151 Re: 2008 Transmission gone--70 K miles [confusedagain]
Jan 20, 2012 (7:28 am)
I had your exact electrical problem - it is the ignition. Just replace it and electrical problems go away - or when you are turning your key on, after it is on just slightly nudge the key back so it rests against the resistance. The problem is that the ignition is telling the starter to keep starting and starting... and your electrical thinks the car is about to start so it pauses.
#119 of 151 Transmission Slipping, help!
Jan 20, 2012 (7:52 am)
Yesterday, while driving into town in a severe cold snap (-40 Welcome to Canada), 2004 Escape suddenly revved very high. It wouldn't do the shift into 3rd (though it had already been there). I initially thought something had froze up, but that's not the problem. Husband went to pull it apart thinking the bands needed to be adjusted?? But he says it's a nightmare underthere and he can't even get to the transmission filter. Advise please!
#120 of 151 Re: 2008 Transmission gone--70 K miles [wwest]
Jan 27, 2012 (8:53 pm)
My trans just went on my 2008 Ford Escape XLT 4x4 V6.....at 107 k miles. $3000 to fix. My first FORD....and my LAST. I feel for ya! In fact you want to know what happened to my car when this happened....my car started shaking, screeching...and accelerating at high speeds and would not shift into park, I nearly caused an accident. I have never towed crap with this vehicle, I use it for small road trips and driving to work. I still owe one more year of payment as well. This happened on my birthday last week, happy birthday to me right?! I so loved my Escape, at least now it will have a REAL trans in it MADE IN AMERICA, NOT MEXICO!
#121 of 151 Re: Transmission Slipping, help! [lyncar]
Jan 28, 2012 (10:42 am)
ATF level slightly low?
At -40 the volume might be unusually low, once the clutch "pistons" are filled with ATF there's not enough left in the sump.
For quite a number of years now factory fill levels, ATF fill, have been "just enough". Extreme cold may not have been in the plans. Warm up idle for a few minutes before driving..?
#122 of 151 Re: 2008 Transmission gone--70 K miles [tdd281]
Jan 28, 2012 (4:37 pm)
Sorry to tell you but I don't think you are going to get an american trans. I am also not impressed with Ford's trans. (had a 2010 and now a 2011) and there is no chance that Ford hears us. One reason is the dealers do not always report the problems to Ford directly. The other reason is all the advertising that Ford does they sell enough to cover up the % of bad problems. As long as we buy em and the car experts do not expose the true facts, it will remain the same. I can't believe that if a 2008 trans. went out just how long will the 2011 or 2012 last. I too will be looking for other auto choices.
#123 of 151 Re: 2005 escape tranny vibration at idle in gear [nvbanker]
Jan 31, 2012 (6:34 am)
Well I hope so.... My 2005 Ford Escape is doing the same thing right at 45 mph. I had a Honda Civic were I actually replaced the tranny twice and got rid of it to escape other issues. I just got this car and I can't deal with this same issue again. Please tell me something. I need to know because this vibrating is making me nervous. Do you think a flush will help?
#124 of 151 Got used '08 Escape w/bad tranny 6 weeks ago
Mar 05, 2012 (6:16 pm)
I bought a used (fleet) '08 Escape XLT w/52K on the odometer from one of those big chain dealerships who have prices set w/no haggling on the price.
I thought the noticeable shifting was "normal" and not objectionable to me
About 6 weeks into my relationship with this vehicle, the tranny started shifting a lot harder then:..... it started slipping I thought I got ripped off After mulling it over; I gave the dealer the benefit of the doubt because they deal with such large volumes and the fact that these problems are apparently so common; the sales person may not have known the harsh shifts were not "normal".
After some research: I discovered the drive-line is still covered for 5 years or 60K miles regardless of the chain of custody.
I took the vehicle to a reputable Ford dealer where they discovered a certain, internal part had failed. They ordered the part, however: the part was not in stock and they had no idea of when they would get more. The dealer contacted some higher-ups at Ford and arraigned to have a NEW complete tranny shipped from the factory!
I now have a brand new tranny in my '08 Escape.
It appears that heat is the main culprit in these early failures, so: my new tranny is getting a new cooler to help extend it's life span.
I don't know if luck or perseverance is why I got a new tranny, FREE OF CHARGE; but I have to give Ford Motor Company, and a great dealership, a lot of credit and appreciation for their efforts in addressing and fixing my '08 Escape.
Driving this appealing vehicle is a much better experience now that it shifts more like a Lincoln than a truck!!!