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Kia Rondo Prices Paid and Buying Experience

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KIA -- LOVE IT / HATE IT / WHO WINS? by crutnacker
Feb 17, 2007 (8:55 am)
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I'd love to take a drive over to the Kia Store and test drive a few of their vehicles, the Rondo included. However, the nagging questions in my head is:
 
How will it compare to the Hondas and Nissan I've owned in the past.
 
I hear lots of stories about how great the cars are, but then I see several posts in different forums about how the cars act up, have huge warranty issues, do odd things, etc.
 
I would like to pursue KIA, but don't want to wind up kicking myself for 5 or more years as little things keep happening to my car that haven't happened to me on my Nissan/Hondas. (and as a caveat, my Nissan has had a few little things go wrong).
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Re: KIA -- LOVE IT / HATE IT / WHO WINS? [crutnacker] by viamede
Feb 17, 2007 (9:52 am)
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Replying to: crutnacker (Feb 17, 2007 8:55 am)

Kia is still not near Honda in quality IMO. I think they are pretty comparable to Nissan.
 
It will be a while before they stop depreciating as fast as the domestics. I wouldn't buy a Kia if your going to sell every few years. If your keeping for a while then the warranty and lower price will make up for any quality difference in my view.
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Resale value would be more of a concern to me than quality by bluedevils
Feb 17, 2007 (7:54 pm)
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In my opinion, Honda quality/reliability has dropped in the past few years. They rested on their laurels a bit. Kia is making better and better vehicles. Even sources that previously trashed Kia, such as Consumer Reports, now commend them on well-made interiors etc.
 
Resale value is still a weak point for Kia. I think it is improving, but Kia products definitely have some of the worst resale value of any vehicles on the market.
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Re: KIA -- LOVE IT / HATE IT / WHO WINS? [crutnacker] by csandste
Feb 17, 2007 (9:52 pm)
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Replying to: crutnacker (Feb 17, 2007 8:55 am)

Bought a four cylinder Optima for my wife in January. Looked at the Rondo but already had a Malibu Maxx so didn't need the space or hatch and the Optima had larger discounts.
 
I would say that the Optima compares very well with the Altima or Accord with the four cylinder engine. They didn't get the larger six cylinder of the Sonata and so I'd think it would lag the Nissan (especially at the six cylinder level).
 
I had very good luck with a 2001 Hyundai Elantra and so am not afraid at all of Korean cars (at least if they're not made by Daewoo).
 
In the recent Car and Driver comparo the Optima finished behind the Accord and new Altima but ahead of the Camry. I think the finish of the car is at least in the same range as the Honda and Nissan (lots better than the last gen. Altima), and definitely better finished than the Camry.
 
Do agree on resale, but that hasn't been a major problem. Starting prices on Kias are a lot lower to begin with.
 
Thought the original interior pictures of the Rondo in Canadian Driver looked really cheap but the car itself was very pleasant and well finished. If something happened to my Maxx and I needed the space it would definitely be on my short list (along with buying another Maxx). Honda and Nissan have nothing comparable.
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Re: KIA -- LOVE IT / HATE IT / WHO WINS? [crutnacker] by dakota29803
Feb 18, 2007 (5:49 am)
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Replying to: crutnacker (Feb 17, 2007 8:55 am)

About a year and a half ago, we rented a car in Las Vegas. they gave us a Kia Optima, and that worried me because I had heard all of the bad stuff about Kia. However, over the next two weeks, including a trip to Phoenix and back, I was impressed with the Kia. A few months later, I rented a car in Pittsburgh and they gave me a Nissan Sentra. I did not think that the Sentra was near the quality of the Kia. That is why, when Kia introduced the Rondo, which was nearly exactly what I was looking for, I had no qualms about buying KIA.
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Re: KIA -- LOVE IT / HATE IT / WHO WINS? [dakota29803] by csandste
Feb 18, 2007 (3:01 pm)
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Replying to: dakota29803 (Feb 18, 2007 5:49 am)

That 2000-06 Sentra was a horribly outdated car that continued to sell quite well. Could never figure that one out. Nissan quality continued to go south during those years as well-- could never figure the popularity out on that one.
 
I bought a new 2001 Elantra which had slight hail damage, and they gave me a rental 1999 (two gen's ago, now) Sentra to drive for a week. Really a remarkably unlikeable car. I've sat in the 07 Sentra and I'm sure it's much better-- more and more Renault influences.
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Got a deal on a Rondo! by bfieldnole
Feb 20, 2007 (8:40 am)
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I couldn't be happier with the deal I got on my new Rondo this weekend.
 
I had to search all over Southern California and the Central Valley for the exact color, interior color, and 3rd row seat that we wanted.
 
I bought the 2.4 LX w/ AC, Code 93222, with Convenience Pkg, 3rd row seat, and floormats for $16,300. That was after the 2.9%/$750 and a $750 Competency??? rebate. Other dealers that I talked to had no idea about the Competency rebate. The dealer asked for a copy of my Honda Civic's registration to prove that I was an owner of one of the cars on it's list to make me eligible.
 
I agreed on a price by phone with Glendale Kia in the LA area. The dealer was no-nonsense and kept the sales agreement exactly the way we talked about.
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Re: Got a deal on a Rondo! [bfieldnole] by skiingyac
Feb 20, 2007 (7:53 pm)
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Replying to: bfieldnole (Feb 20, 2007 8:40 am)

How does this sound for an offer? A 4cyl LX with the convenience & the std. popular equipment group (A/C, cruise, keyless entry, roof rails), 3rd row seat, for $18,300 after the $750 rebate. According to kia.com, MSRP + $600 dest for this is $19390, so minus $750 rebate is ~18,640... bfieldnole's price is 1,500 less, even considering the $750 competitive/competition/whatever rebate. So what am I missing? The dest charge to the my zip is $600, so that can't be the only difference...
 
Also, when for example carsdirect.com lists the "target" price, is that before or after the rebate?
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Re: Got a deal on a Rondo! [skiingyac] by arumage
Feb 21, 2007 (5:05 am)
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Replying to: skiingyac (Feb 20, 2007 7:53 pm)

If MSRP is $19,390, then invoice should be around $17,390. I would try to get them to go down to atleast $18,390 before the rebates come off, making the final price (minus both $750 rebates) $16,890. They're only going $340 off MSRP before rebates. Even if you only get one rebate, it's still $17,640.
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Re: Got a deal on a Rondo! [skiingyac] by bfieldnole
Feb 21, 2007 (5:22 am)
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Replying to: skiingyac (Feb 20, 2007 7:53 pm)

The other dealers that I talked with said that Glendale Kia was able to cut such a great deal because they were probably a "volume dealer". I was confident that I had the best price when these dealers said to go with what I had, and that they couldn't come close to matching it.

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