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Replying to: arumage (Feb 08, 2007 9:02 am) Kia Chat |
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Wow - I had a great shopping and buying experience. Better than I'd ever expect to have, given many of the dealers I've shopped/bought with in the past.  Saw the Rondo last weekend at the auto show here in Philly. Loved the feature set, flexibility, and price. Stopped into Gateway Kia in Warrington. Took a test drive with a great salesperson who knew the vehicle well, and was up front with me when she didn't know an answer to a question. I really liked the car and the ride. Sat down with the sales manager, who walked me thru an offer that was $550 off of sticker. Earnest, persuasive, but not pushy. I felt very comfortable saying I was still shopping. Went back a few nights later for a highway test, and brought pricing research. Worked a deal for $820 off of sticker. Note that the dealer sticker did include $420 for pinstripes and mudflaps, though they did throw in a rear bumper guard to seal the deal. Also,the factory sticker had floormats priced as a $95 option, whereas the brochure notes them as standard on EX, and the KIA.com site price was exactly $95 less. Dealer dropped the price by $95 right away when I noted this. This was all before the $750 rebate, and the 2.9% rate was readily offered after I was found credit worthy.  Felt taken seriously and respected as a buyer. Good solid negotiating in a business like manner. Even F&I was very low pressure. Contrast this to the Kia dealer by the airport, where they are tacking on $995 for "Appearance Package," and then adding a $2500 (!!) Market Adjustment. But if you are on this site and live around Philly, that's probably not a surprise. Thanks for this forum, Edmunds! 
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I'd love to take a drive over to the Kia Store and test drive a few of their vehicles, the Rondo included. However, the nagging questions in my head is: How will it compare to the Hondas and Nissan I've owned in the past. I hear lots of stories about how great the cars are, but then I see several posts in different forums about how the cars act up, have huge warranty issues, do odd things, etc. I would like to pursue KIA, but don't want to wind up kicking myself for 5 or more years as little things keep happening to my car that haven't happened to me on my Nissan/Hondas. (and as a caveat, my Nissan has had a few little things go wrong). |
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Replying to: crutnacker (Feb 17, 2007 9:55 am) It will be a while before they stop depreciating as fast as the domestics. I wouldn't buy a Kia if your going to sell every few years. If your keeping for a while then the warranty and lower price will make up for any quality difference in my view. |
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In my opinion, Honda quality/reliability has dropped in the past few years. They rested on their laurels a bit. Kia is making better and better vehicles. Even sources that previously trashed Kia, such as Consumer Reports, now commend them on well-made interiors etc. Resale value is still a weak point for Kia. I think it is improving, but Kia products definitely have some of the worst resale value of any vehicles on the market. |
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Replying to: crutnacker (Feb 17, 2007 9:55 am) I would say that the Optima compares very well with the Altima or Accord with the four cylinder engine. They didn't get the larger six cylinder of the Sonata and so I'd think it would lag the Nissan (especially at the six cylinder level). I had very good luck with a 2001 Hyundai Elantra and so am not afraid at all of Korean cars (at least if they're not made by Daewoo). In the recent Car and Driver comparo the Optima finished behind the Accord and new Altima but ahead of the Camry. I think the finish of the car is at least in the same range as the Honda and Nissan (lots better than the last gen. Altima), and definitely better finished than the Camry. Do agree on resale, but that hasn't been a major problem. Starting prices on Kias are a lot lower to begin with. Thought the original interior pictures of the Rondo in Canadian Driver looked really cheap but the car itself was very pleasant and well finished. If something happened to my Maxx and I needed the space it would definitely be on my short list (along with buying another Maxx). Honda and Nissan have nothing comparable. |
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Replying to: crutnacker (Feb 17, 2007 9:55 am)
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Replying to: dakota29803 (Feb 18, 2007 6:49 am) I bought a new 2001 Elantra which had slight hail damage, and they gave me a rental 1999 (two gen's ago, now) Sentra to drive for a week. Really a remarkably unlikeable car. I've sat in the 07 Sentra and I'm sure it's much better-- more and more Renault influences. |
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I couldn't be happier with the deal I got on my new Rondo this weekend. I had to search all over Southern California and the Central Valley for the exact color, interior color, and 3rd row seat that we wanted. I bought the 2.4 LX w/ AC, Code 93222, with Convenience Pkg, 3rd row seat, and floormats for $16,300. That was after the 2.9%/$750 and a $750 Competency??? rebate. Other dealers that I talked to had no idea about the Competency rebate. The dealer asked for a copy of my Honda Civic's registration to prove that I was an owner of one of the cars on it's list to make me eligible. I agreed on a price by phone with Glendale Kia in the LA area. The dealer was no-nonsense and kept the sales agreement exactly the way we talked about.
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Replying to: bfieldnole (Feb 20, 2007 9:40 am) Also, when for example carsdirect.com lists the "target" price, is that before or after the rebate?
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