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Replying to: aalsherri (Mar 06, 2009 6:31 pm) |
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Replying to: conwelpic (Mar 06, 2009 3:24 pm) However at this point I'm not entirely sure the a/c compressor DOES engage automatically in the Rondo when a defrost vent position is selected. It's just that last weekend I noted how the windows defogged fairly quickly once I selected defrost and increased the fan speed. So based only on how effectively the system performed I assumed the compressor had engaged, but so far I really haven't confirmed this assumption. Also, I agree with you that when the a/c compressor engages in my Rondo it's barely noticeable and the compressor does seem to be much quieter than any of the those installed in my other cars. For this I say kudos to Kia for the improved and more refined a/c operation! When driving my 2.0L 5-speed manual '05 Mazda 3i if the compressor engages it's clearly audible and if you happen to be climbing a grade in top gear at low rpm or accelerating when it does the effect on performance is akin to throwing out an anchor! As far as the automatic a/c engagement goes, all I'm saying is I'd prefer to have total control over when the a/c compressor can engage. There are plenty of situations where you might want to direct air toward the windshield when neither cooling nor drying of the air is really necessary. In such situations I'd prefer to avoid having the a/c compressor engage unnecessarily, for any time it is your vehicle's gas mileage and performance suffers.
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Replying to: aalsherri (Mar 06, 2009 6:31 pm) Unfortunately (for me) this confirms a suspicion that I should have made a lower initial offer to purchase my '08 LX V6! Oh well... Still, based on the gap between what you say the car cost compared to the final price out-the-door it sounds like either vehicle title taxes and registration fees are noticeably higher in your area-or you may have ended up saddled with some relatively high dealer fees. Above the price negotiated for my Rondo ($15,088 after the $4k mfgr rebate) I paid $399 for "dealer services", $10 for "online filing fees", $584.61 for VA titling taxes (3%), $36.27 for "dealer business license tax" (never should have let this one go w/o protest), $38.75 for registration (tags) and $10 for VA title fee for a total of $1,078.63. Sounds like you ended up paying about $225 morr for fees, licenses & taxes (& options/warranties?) above the base price for your car. You got a great deal in any case!
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Replying to: smoothsailin (Mar 07, 2009 9:36 am) "As far as the automatic a/c engagement goes, all I'm saying is I'd prefer to have total control over when the a/c compressor can engage." You do, if you engage it in the "on" position (eg: in the two defrost positions) where the a/c comes on automatically (the a/c button lights up, therefore the a/c is activated - compressor engaged), if you don't want it on at that point, push the a/c button to turn it off. The only position you can't do this is maximum a/c setting. If you don't want it to come on automatically then use the reset as I described earlier.
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Replying to: conwelpic (Mar 08, 2009 2:03 pm) When I move the vent control in my Rondo to a defrost position I can tell that the a/c compressor engages because I immediately see a "bump" in the tachometer needle position which clearly indicates a slight change in rpm and engine load as the a/c compressor engages. However when this happens the a/c light does not come on to show the compressor is engaged. This behavior is consistant with what I've witnessed in my other cars owned over the last 10 years or so, including a '98 Toyota, '04 Scion and '05 Mazda. The a/c light doesn't illuminate when defrost is selected (if the the blower switch on) in any of those cars either. However my '99 BMW 323ic is an exception, for I don't believe the a/c compressor will engage unless you press the button in tha car. I'd be happier if the other ones were designed the same way.
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Replying to: smoothsailin (Mar 09, 2009 10:06 am) Did you try the defogging logic as I described in #294 to see if it does anything? Is there a reference in your US owners manual to this setting? Too bad the US site doesn't allow you to download the owners manual like the Canadian one, at least without having to register. own 2008 Rondo EX, 2.4L, 5-seater, Aqua silver, 16 months ownership, nearly 26,000 km
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Replying to: conwelpic (Mar 09, 2009 2:22 pm) I also haven't tried to use your "defogging logic" procedure. I'm a tax accountant and am working 12+ hour days, 7-days/week. I did experiment with the hvac controls last night during the drive home and confirmed the following: A/c compressor engages automatically but the light doesn't come on when either of the defrost positions is selected. Confirmed this by viewing the tachometer as the control position is changed. Also confirmed that the air from the vents gets cooler right after a defrost vent position is selected. Contrastingly, when the far counter-clockwise "Max A/C" position is selected both the a/c and recirculate lights are illuminated. Haven't had much time (or energy) left by the end of the day to pull out the car's owners manual again. The first time I browsed through the hvac controls section I don't recall reading anything about auto a/c engagement when defrost is selected, much less any procedure which would allow owners to modify the control logic. Still, will try to remember to read through that section of the manual again when I get home tonight. May also try to duplicate the "defogging logic" procedure suggested to see if doing so would make a difference. Cheers! |
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I bought a new 2008 Rondo EX-2.4L (5 seater with crossbar and cargo tray) in February. Paid invoice minus $4500 (out of the door price $15,600, including tax, fees, etc). We wanted a particular color and only found it at this one dealer in our area (Philadelphia, PA). Otherwise I think the price could have been lower. We really like it so far. Initially we wanted to buy a SUV and looked at the RAV-4, Sportage, etc. I think the Rondo is a good value for the money. |
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Replying to: smoothsailin (Mar 07, 2009 9:56 am) The retail price was $18,880 The sale price was $16,272 plus $80 metro tax plus $835.21 state tax plus $180.60 new licence plus $398.75 processing fee plus $33.34 business tax. The total before incentives was $17,800 KIA incentives was $4000 Final price was $13,800 (out of the door) I paid a down payment of $2000 and financed $11,800 The document fee was high but I was interested in the out of the door price rather than negotiating dealer fees. |
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I bought a Rondo EX in February. And I read about a recall for the Rondos in September 2008 (see below). Should I be worried? Can I assume that the issue has been solved or should I bring the car back to the dealer and have it checked? "Kia has issued a recall for '08-'09 model-year Kia Rondo EX and LX models equipped with the 2.4-liter four-cylinder engine. Fuel pumps in those models may be defective, not supplying enough fuel to the engine says the NHTSA. The problem might be experienced as hesitation on acceleration or trouble starting the vehicle, possibly endangering drivers it it worsens. Kia will replace the fuel pump at dealerships. Owners with questions may contact Kia at 1-800-333-4542."
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