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How I bought my Kia by newkiaguy1
Aug 30, 2008 (8:07 am)
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I'm pretty happy with the results of my purchase and the process I went through. This board was helpful to me so I thought I'd share my experiences for the next person...
 
1) Rented a lot of different cars for a day or a weekend. Including Prius and Rav4 (from dealer) and Kia Rondo (from Enterprise). Settled on Rondo, because price to value benefit seems highest. (10 year warranty help allay the lack of Consumer Reports maintenance track record.)
 
2) Got Costco referral. They want you to visit the dealer to get the quote. My local Kia dealer offered the car I wanted: dark grey, 4cyl, A/C, with 3rd row, convenience package, and bumper guard for $100 over invoice + a $350 "marketing fee". With the current $1500 NorthWest region rebate, my price would be $17400 (before tax and license) out the door (if I took this deal)
   I used this dealer to test drive the exact model I wanted, asked if they would negotiate on the price (they said no), and said thanks.
   (There is also a $2000 rebate if you own a "Competitive car". I was really peeved that my car was not on the list. Be careful when you see an ad because, if you see a price, the dealer's will all list EVERY rebate in the book, even if you are not eligible.)
 
3) Used Yahoo Autos to get other dealers in the (Portland, OR) area and as far north as Seattle. Each time you do this (or with Costco), you'll get a call within 15 mins, so be ready. I told them I was done shopping and ready to buy. They want you to come in but I told them that I was not sure it would be worth it, etc. I wanted them to name a price over the phone or email me.
   They will ask you for a number, but don't give one unless you want to really buy at that price. Originally, I thought that I would be happy with $17000 but that, it turns out, would have been stupid.
   Tell them you know the costco price but know they can do WAY better. Ask for their "One at ..." priced car. Ask for the car in any color. Just get a price that rocks you. One of them (I tried about 3) will do this. I got it to $17000 no problem.
 
4) That was too easy, so let's try 16650. One guy actually had the car I wanted at 16450 ("one at...") but the wrong color and 200 miles away from me. So I tried the 2 local dealers I was working with and was not getting much luck.
 
5) I spread the net a little wider with Yahoo Autos...querying ALL of the local dealers who had this car in inventory (I checked their websites first) to make a bid. I told them I had the car I wanted at the price I wanted, but it was 200 miles away and if could get me that car in my color, it's a done deal.
 
6) There is this part where we email back and forth and forth a lot. Some guys say they are losing money, others seem really nice and others are all business. Anyway, this part is not the most pleasant, but at least you are not in their office doing this! I was always honest with these guys, btw...no need to lie about the prices you are getting. (Some will insist to see the quotes from the other dealers so that's another reason to not lie.)
  One guy came right back and told me he could beat the 16450. After just a bit more time, he offered it to me for 16250 out the door. I asked for a faxed invoice, he did it, and I told him I'd be right there. I insisted on "no games" once I go there and they were really prompt. (For me, going to a car dealer is like going to the hospital emergency room--the less time there , the better.) I called them on the way down there with my info, they had the paperwork all ready to go, and I was in and out in 30 mins. (I paid cash)
 
7) When I got home, I found messages from the other dealer I was working with had offered it to me for 16497.
 
Summary:
  Rent the car first to know what you want,
  Get Costco price - you may need to visit one dealer for this (and to know the options you want)
  Use Yahoo Autos to get other dealers,
  Work with them over the phone and via email--No reason to go to their office
  When you get a price you like and agree verbally, honor your side of the deal and get down there to the dealership and buy.
 
Happy hunting!
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Pretty much mirrors how I've bought my.... by garnermike
Sep 01, 2008 (6:55 am)
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Replying to: newkiaguy1 (Aug 30, 2008 8:07 am)

...last 5 cars, including my Rondo. Start with an internet or sales club inquiry. Talk. Go to another internet service for a wider net. Negotiate. Insist on no nonsense, that you're buying cash and are close to a decision. Once you've rented or test driven for a while, no need to get behind the wheel again with any dealer.
 
My Rondo dealer was so convinced I would walk if they weren't business-like, cooperative and efficient, they offered to deliver the car to my driveway, on a holiday weekend. And they did; I signed the paper work in my living room
 
You got a great price for a great car. Pretty much identical to mine.
Good luck!
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Re: How I bought my Kia [newkiaguy1] by Car_man HOST
Sep 09, 2008 (2:21 am)
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Replying to: newkiaguy1 (Aug 30, 2008 8:07 am)

Wow, thanks for taking the time to post such a detailed description of your purchase, newkiaguy1. If you'd like, you can stop by the Dealer Ratings & Reviews section of Edmunds.com to share your thoughts on your recent dealer experience as well. Enjoy your new Rondo !
 
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Press Request by KarenS HOST
Oct 07, 2008 (8:51 am)
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A reporter from a national newspaper would like to speak to consumers who recently purchased a new small or mid-sized car and either got great financing or cash back/incentives offered to them . If this is you, please respond to ctalatiedmunds.com with your daytime phone number by Wednesday, October 8, 2008.
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Starting my negotiations by john1234
Oct 28, 2008 (4:34 am)
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I have decided I want a 2008 Rondo EX 6 cyl. with Urban Grey exterior and Black interior. I have searched inventories online of local dealers and none have one. The dealership I have taken test drives at said they could find one for me, but basically wanted sticker price for it. I do have a 2002 Dodge Caravan I want to trade in. The Edmonds “What others are paying” price is 18815. Tax here is 6% plus $50. I am trying to get this for $17000 and my trade.
Any comments?
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Re: Starting my negotiations [john1234] by sra1
Oct 28, 2008 (8:01 am)
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Replying to: john1234 (Oct 28, 2008 4:34 am)

Don't know where you are, but, you ought to be able to get at least $2,500.00 off MSRP on an 08 model.
 
I'd try another dealer.
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by john1234
Oct 28, 2008 (8:18 am)
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I'm in Tampa, FL. I have sent email inquires to other Kia dealers in the area, and they have already started to call. It makes it harder that I have a trade, but I'm going to get a price first before going in with my trade.
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Re: How I bought my Kia [newkiaguy1] by irismg
Feb 01, 2009 (10:34 am)
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Replying to: newkiaguy1 (Aug 30, 2008 8:07 am)

I wonder, how would this procedure have changed/complicated if there had been a trade?
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Re: How I bought my Kia [irismg] by newkiaguy1
Feb 01, 2009 (11:51 am)
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Replying to: irismg (Feb 01, 2009 10:34 am)

If you are trading in, you are at a complete disadvantage. Why? Because you are simultaneously negotiating on two separate things and the complexity of the transaction is seriously compounded.
 
They can give you a deal on your new car and screw you on the trade in, for example. And the new car salesman will blame the used car appraiser guy.
 
My advice: don't do it. Sell your old car on your own. Or sell it to the dealer later, if you must.
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Re: How I bought my Kia [newkiaguy1] by irismg
Feb 04, 2009 (6:27 pm)
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Replying to: newkiaguy1 (Feb 01, 2009 11:51 am)

Food for thought, thanks! As old as mine is now, I might be better off letting PBS or NPR come take it for their fund drive.

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